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    I'm just waiting for someone to challenge legally the private business entry requirement of:

    "No Shoes, No Shirt, No Service"

    That would be a fun case to monitor. I'm sure it would take the social justice line that you can't discriminate against some because they're too poor to buy shoes or a shirt.
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    Ever read Ender’s Game?

    Where the concept of Three Dimensionality finally hits him?

    When do WE get that moment?

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    Whoa. Where have you been?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JediGuy View Post
    We still have firearms in private hands. Employers in all states are not mandated to provide a particular amount of time off to employees. The FLSA doesn’t apply to ministers.
    It’s a never ending battle, and to preserve some things, they have had to sacrifice others to the majority

    Most people don’t know what they want other than free stuff. Libertarians want everything free to be chosen. The Left want everything free for those who have less than those in the two income brackets higher than they are themselves. Conservatives want to be left alone.

    I think ideologues of libertarianism and conservatism misunderstand how much most Americans, regardless of their claimed political stripe, really want everything, or many things, handed to them. Seriously. Only compromise has kept us from having everything taken. The only way this is reversed is with active, terrible violence. And who really wants to be the person or group that starts that, against the will of the majority? I’ll wait.

    Also, BoringGuy did a good summary.
    Seriously. Redstate just rolled out paid extra content in addition to the free stuff we'e always had, and if you saw how many "market conservatives" there are bitching about "MUH FREE LUNCH!"...
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    Well I bowed out of this thread so you all could continue without having religion mucking up the great libertarian fix, and what do I see...Christian's are the prob... not the "just want to be left alone" gays. If you dangled a billion dollars in my face I wouldnt become a libertarian. Just another subset of atheists and wayward evangleicals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TomMcC View Post
    Well I bowed out of this thread so you all could continue without having religion mucking up the great libertarian fix, and what do I see...Christian's are the prob... not the "just want to be left alone" gays. If you dangled a billion dollars in my face I wouldnt become a libertarian. Just another subset of atheists and wayward evangleicals.
    Theocracy is a terrible idea. Period.


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    Quote Originally Posted by lsllc View Post
    Theocracy is a terrible idea. Period.


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    Wasnt advocating a theocracy, I advocate theonomy, there's a differences. But since you seem to not understand what i peacefully advocate and you seem somewhat religious, I'll ask you a theological question. Was King David's kingdom, which biblically speaking, was set up directly by God a bad idea?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TomMcC View Post
    Wasnt advocating a theocracy, I advocate theonomy, there's a differences. But since you seem to not understand what i peacefully advocate and you seem somewhat religious, I'll ask you a theological question. Was King David's kingdom, which biblically speaking, was set up directly by God a bad idea?
    Theonomy is rule by divine law, including the laws of the Old Testament. Are you suggesting applying those laws literally, including the prescribed punishments?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TomMcC View Post
    Wasnt advocating a theocracy, I advocate theonomy, there's a differences. But since you seem to not understand what i peacefully advocate and you seem somewhat religious, I'll ask you a theological question. Was King David's kingdom, which biblically speaking, was set up directly by God a bad idea?
    I’m not sure theonomy is any better. Further, it is important to note that, biblically speaking, god used political systems to both reward and punish his believers.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tx_Aggie View Post
    Theonomy is rule by divine law, including the laws of the Old Testament. Are you suggesting applying those laws literally, including the prescribed punishments?

    Historic theonomy says the judicial laws of ancient Israel are done away with but their moral equity is still in effect. The 10 commandments are moral law and binding. David's kingdom was a theonomy. He didnt run the temple the churchmen did. But he did uphold Gods law and the various penalties attached to law breaking. There was a separation between the ONE church and state, but not an absolute separation. They were to work together for the peace of the kingdom. Who's law is supreme in your life? God's or men? How many law givers are there for you? One or many? Is Christ actually the King of kings for you or not. Is His word supreme or men's. Read psalm 2.. Christians talk about Jesus being king but like unbelievers in His day they dont want Him ruling over them by His word/law especially when it comes to the secular govt. What I'm saying now wouldnt be strange at all to the protestant reformers.

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