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    Quote Originally Posted by JediGuy View Post
    The movie 1984?

    Nineteen Eighty-Four is a book by a socialist, George Orwell.
    ...that was turned into a movie.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Wake27 View Post
    ...that was turned into a movie.


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    ...that only scratched the surface of the book just like most cases.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JediGuy View Post
    Nineteen Eighty-Four is a book by a socialist, George Orwell.
    A socialist who was, perhaps grudgingly, coming to understand socialism creates dystopian dictatorships and not a workers paradise.

    I actually found the book to be as subtlety anti communist as dystopian the second time I read it.

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    George Orwell chose socialism because he believed (feared) that Western liberal democracies were going to inevitably fall to either communism or fascism.

    His experiences in Spain during the Spanish Civil War caused him to become disillusioned with communism, particularly as he watched the Spanish socialists within the Republican faction begin to eat each other alive in a race to be seen as the most ideologically pure socialist/communist. Combined with his observations of Stalinism, he became a very unpopular man within British socialism/communist circles.

    And, of course, when the Western liberal democracies were able to inoculate themselves against homegrown socialists while teaming up and simultaneously defeating both Nazi Germany and fascist Italy... his fear that he'd have to choose between socialism or fascism subsided.
    " Political tags ó such as [...], communist, democrat, [...], fascist, liberal, conservative, [...] ó are never basic criteria. The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire. The former are idealists acting from highest motives for the greatest good of the greatest number. The latter are surly curmudgeons, suspicious and lacking in altruism. But they are more comfortable neighbors than the other sort. "
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    That was then, this is now.
    Orwell is dead and a thinly veiled Socialism is on the rise.
    Spanish Civil War etu Pablo ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mauser KAR98K View Post
    The CIA with Google and Facebook makes sense. Create a spying arm that the can control by proxy and stay legal of spying and mind controlling it's own citizens.

    Like how they used foriegn agencies to spy on Trump.
    I think it was Beck that did a report a while back that the CIA and/or social media firms were using ex STASI personnel to develop all this spyware. It is definitely a crazy world we are living in. Gets crazier by the minute.
    ...Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself.

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    Donít have Facebook, this is why. No point in giving up all my information to a company thatíll just censor anything they want / promote utter nonsense 24-7.

    Itís a losing fight gents, call me what you will for saying it, but that is the sad truth.

    The social media giants have gone into overdrive to ensure a Democrat wins the next Presidential Election and youíre all seeing it first hand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd.K View Post
    A socialist who was, perhaps grudgingly, coming to understand socialism creates dystopian dictatorships and not a workers paradise.

    I actually found the book to be as subtlety anti communist as dystopian the second time I read it.
    I find it ironic that Big Brother was painted as right wing in the book but the scenario it described is being enacted by the liberals.

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    Hey but it helps me keep in touch with people that wouldn’t even so much as call me on the phone before.

    Quote Originally Posted by tgizzard View Post
    Don’t have Facebook, this is why. No point in giving up all my information to a company that’ll just censor anything they want / promote utter nonsense 24-7.

    It’s a losing fight gents, call me what you will for saying it, but that is the sad truth.

    The social media giants have gone into overdrive to ensure a Democrat wins the next Presidential Election and you’re all seeing it first hand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teufelhund1918 View Post
    I think it was Beck that did a report a while back that the CIA and/or social media firms were using ex STASI personnel to develop all this spyware. It is definitely a crazy world we are living in. Gets crazier by the minute.
    Kurt Wolfe, the commander of the STASI when the Wall fell, helped to to set up and organize DHS in 2001.


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