Agree on this. But a Ralph gun these days is more than a SP5.Originally Posted by JoshNC
My Ralph Sr MP5/40 is the only non-German MP5 I own and it is a masterpiece.
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Agree on this. But a Ralph gun these days is more than a SP5.
My Ralph Sr MP5/40 is the only non-German MP5 I own and it is a masterpiece.
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They are around. I picked mine up for $2700 right before covid but when they were so new they weren't around below MSRP. Then I have found two more for friends at MSRP since. One of my friends managed to beg a dealer down to $2600. I have one friend who is constantly complaining they aren't around but when I found one he complained it wasn't $2500 like Atlantic sold one for like once.
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I finally found a reasonably priced PDW. $3295 + 8.25%, at Scheel's - The Colony, TX.
Kat put me on the list and called me over the phone. They are here.
Someone else posted they sold out in 30 minutes. They would not ship the PDW.
I physically picked it up on the way to a Unknown Munition's re-loading class, in SLC.
Just grabbed a MR223, at A.U. A.U. has stocked quite a few kewl items over the last few years. They are awesome.
Same with JDI. Just too much kewl crap.
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It seems that Century has dropped the price on their Turkish MKE imports. Atlantic Firearms is offering several of the pistols for $1,779.00. That's the right direction, but I bet the price will come down more.
https://atlanticfirearms.com/century...n-787450668539
https://atlanticfirearms.com/century...9mm-mke-turkey
https://atlanticfirearms.com/century...tol-mke-turkey
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Given the problems Zenith reported with their last batches of MKE's, I wouldn't even bother. The PTRs are probably a safer bet than MKE.
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Interesting. I have two and they both run great. Glad I dodged that bullet.
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I've assumed that was MKE's payback for Zenith sending one of their executives to Turkish Prison. Timeline seemed to coincide.
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I don't. I saw quality declines with each successive import. I think the dramatic price hike was payback. The last MKEs were twice as much as the ones I bought.
And I have 3 MKEs, two second import 94p and 94k as well as a 43p that was from a much later import. There were things that had to be corrected on that 43p and it should have never went out the door like that. I have seen some online problems with some of the last Zenith guns that were eye opening.
Given the pattern of MKE and the reputation of CAI, I wouldn't trust it.
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Chuck, we miss ya man.
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Anyone see any PDWs come in for sale new? My guys haven’t seen one in over a year.
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Anything you find available now is, for the most part, opportunists trying to cash in on the current market and you’ll likely way over pay.
I’d hold off for a while, now is the time to build AR15’s as parts are available and more reasonably priced.
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