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    New Winchester 9mm Army round

    Saw some of this at Academy yesterday?
    https://www.americanrifleman.org/art...m-luger-loads/

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    I wonder when we will see specific ammunition for the new sub-guns.


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    Sigh. Winchester currently has some of the shittiest quality control around. More great news for the Joes actually carrying pistols.

    Why didn't they just order a metric butt-load of Federal 147-grain hST and call it good? But I guess no one would have made Colonel that way.

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    The contract for the pistol required an ammo contract. Thatís what Sig selected.


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    The new hollow point ammo shoots and functions the M17 and M18 better than the new and old ball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinister View Post
    The new hollow point ammo shoots and functions the M17 and M18 better than the new and old ball.
    I am really, really glad to hear that. Winchester ammo has really worried me of late. If they have a good handle on QC for these loads, that's great news for the folks using it.

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    I guess we will see plenty of xm1152 and xm1153 soon then.
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    The new military 9mm Winchester ammunition will be made to milspec quality standards and not to stock holder standards.

    Having said that I bought 500 once fired military Winchester 9mm cases and thought the brass was of good quality.

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    "M1152 with the 115-gr. bullet was at 1326 f.p.s."

    That's +P+ velocity, e.g. Federal 9BPLE or the Winchester or Remington equivalent. Zowie!

    I wonder if M882 / Q4318 is going away? Hope not. That's what I run in my "kinetic platforms."

    And it is indeed true that once fired Q4318 brass is good stuff. I've reloaded it. I don't bother with it any longer, because you have to swage out the primer pocket crimp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uni-Vibe View Post
    "M1152 with the 115-gr. bullet was at 1326 f.p.s."

    That's +P+ velocity, e.g. Federal 9BPLE or the Winchester or Remington equivalent. Zowie!
    I am highly skeptical that anyone could get that velocity with M1152 from a standard pistol length barrel (even though the article says it was from a 4.7 inch barrel).

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