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    Quote Originally Posted by P2Vaircrewman View Post
    Lowered enlistment standards?
    Doubt it. These days, it's actually harder to get into the military, especially the Navy and Air Force. It's not that the standards are too low, it's that they're letting the wrong people in, and turning the wrong people away. I met a guy awhile back who was enlisting in the Navy, and he proudly announced that he was a socialist and hated America, but that if this was a way to get free college money, he'd do it. Meanwhile, if a kid takes Ritalin or Zoloft, he's banned from enlisting for life once he reaches enlistment age.
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    I saw it reported the shooting took place in a classroom.

    P-Cola is still a flight training school, yes? Could be a flunked student exacting some revenge.

    I'm spitballing here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grand58742 View Post
    I saw it reported the shooting took place in a classroom.

    P-Cola is still a flight training school, yes? Could be a flunked student exacting some revenge.

    I'm spitballing here.
    It was a Saudi flight student in the API building (API stands for Aviation Preflight Indoctrination and is the first step in the naval aviation training pipeline)
    Last edited by rocketman; 12-06-19 at 12:09.
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    https://www.foxnews.com/us/naval-air...n-place-issued

    Oh oh, how does a foreigner get a gun and take a gun onto a base. It's a no no for civilian to bring a gun on base right?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam View Post
    https://www.foxnews.com/us/naval-air...n-place-issued

    Oh oh, how does a foreigner get a gun and take a gun onto a base. It's a no no for civilian to bring a gun on base right?
    It's not entirely illegal, though such a thing should raise all kinds of red flags.

    It's a base by base thing, but generally, you can take them to quarters (for permanent residents) or to the base armory. But that's only if they specifically find it or you declare it upon entry. That time of the morning I'd bet there was plenty of traffic coming on base and it's likely they weren't checking vehicles that closely.
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    What makes me curious is the fact Escambia County Sheriffs were the ones responding. I might understand if the base had a mutual aid agreement with the local LEOs, but it's highly irregular not to have a Master at Arms detachment or DoD Police at any base these days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam View Post
    https://www.foxnews.com/us/naval-air...n-place-issued

    Oh oh, how does a foreigner get a gun and take a gun onto a base. It's a no no for civilian to bring a gun on base right?
    And what SOOOOOOOOOOOPER genius - after 9/11 - thought it a GOOD idea, to bring a mohammedan into a NAS?!?!?
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_War_Wagon View Post
    And what SOOOOOOOOOOOPER genius - after 9/11 - thought it a GOOD idea, to bring a mohammedan into a NAS?!?!?
    You mean like the same people who invited the Afghan pilots to train that disappeared?

    https://www.star-telegram.com/news/b...230015139.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam View Post
    https://www.foxnews.com/us/naval-air...n-place-issued

    Oh oh, how does a foreigner get a gun and take a gun onto a base. It's a no no for civilian to bring a gun on base right?
    He wasn't a civilian he was a Saudi military flight student that would have been driving through the gate using "proper ID" everyday. The guards at the gate wouldn't have gone rummaging thru his trunk unless they had a reason to do so.
    Last edited by rocketman; 12-06-19 at 12:54.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rocketman View Post
    He wasn't a civilian he was a Saudi military flight student that would have been driving through the gate using "proper ID" everyday. The guards at the gate wouldn't have gone rummaging thru his trunk unless they had a reason to do so.
    I’d say there’s definitely a reason to now for the others.

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