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    Quote Originally Posted by WillBrink View Post
    I fail to see the connection. One does not follow the other. Some how I don't think she was on the list for airborne qualified crew or the tac team. Wild guess on my part....I wonder how long she was on the job to be on her own like that and clearly incapable of doing the job. So far, very little info about her being released it seems.
    Anything like this gets blamed on inadequate training. Any lack of training is either explicitly, or implied, as being the fault of mean old tax payers not wanting to pay for LE training.

    Very similar to Chicago PD announcing 10k guns vonfiscated, but lacking the money/man power to solve crimes against people or property which is similar to stereotypical welfare crack whores not having money to feed their kids, but can scrape funds together for entertainment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsbhike View Post
    Anything like this gets blamed on inadequate training. Any lack of training is either explicitly, or implied, as being the fault of mean old tax payers not wanting to pay for LE training.
    And that is in fact some times the case. In this case, she seems more like how-the-F-did-she-ever-become-a-cop vs simply a matter of inadequate training per se, but I don't have a clue what her training was, etc. I do think what we are seeing is the all inclusive PC hiring practices in full detailed vid, and a PD that apparently has no ongoing weight/phys recs for it's LEOs, and a person who needs to find another line of work. Her issues are obviously greater than a simple inadequate training issue, but does not mean it was not a factor there.

    Quote Originally Posted by jsbhike View Post
    Very similar to Chicago PD announcing 10k guns vonfiscated, but lacking the money/man power to solve crimes against people or property which is similar to stereotypical welfare crack whores not having money to feed their kids, but can scrape funds together for entertainment.
    As apples and oranges as it gets and I can't comment on that one. Chicago PD and the city have issues that run very deep to be sure.
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    Thinking about it some more....

    22 yo Firefly blasting Teenage Dirtbag on his whopping 2 GB Zen MP3 player would probably knock down the damn door to jump out of a plane to yeet up on thuggies in a trap house.

    But 22 yo Firefly was a tart. Don’t let him sway you. He was a tart

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firefly View Post
    Thinking about it some more....

    22 yo Firefly blasting Teenage Dirtbag on his whopping 2 GB Zen MP3 player would probably knock down the damn door to jump out of a plane to yeet up on thuggies in a trap house.

    But 22 yo Firefly was a tart. Don’t let him sway you. He was a tart
    Like all us at 22, more T than brains.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firefly View Post
    You’re not gonna like my opinion but despite my strong feelings about certain things...

    I side with the deputy.

    Suspect grabbing wrists made me wince. Suspect kept running towards rooms (I’m thinking for a weapon).
    Suspect had no problem hiding behind mother’s skirt despite being grown ass man
    Mother of suspect had no problem going along instead of falling back and removing herself.


    Now....she tried to go it alone and had height and gender against her. I don’t think she was tossing rounds as much as she just missed. Not everyone does the Humbler on a monthly basis.

    So perhaps I am jaded but I don’t think she was wrong. It just went poorly.
    Dude gives me a doper vibe.
    Only thing she did wrong was not put two in his chest when he clear and coming at her. Dude has severe mental or drug problems and shouldn't have been walking around free.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WillBrink View Post
    Any idea why she didn't attempt use of a less lethal to control him at some point before things went totally south? I don't know what options she had there, but no doubt had at least spray. .
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    ...I wonder how long she was on the job to be on her own like that
    I got a rookie vibe from her. Not the most professional interaction I’ve indirectly seen, either. Kinda seemed like she was goading him into escalation. In keeping with my assumption that she’s fairly new, she may not have yet qual’d with OC or tazer, thus not able to use them.

    I loved how the second cop came in with violence of action. Came in the door with a purpose and went alpha baboon on the guy with no hesitation. Warmed my heart. The way he was coaching her at the end of the video, I wonder if he was her FTO, and she was turned out on her own like a week ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1168 View Post
    I got a rookie vibe from her. Not the most professional interaction I’ve indirectly seen, either. Kinda seemed like she was goading him into escalation. In keeping with my assumption that she’s fairly new, she may not have yet qual’d with OC or tazer, thus not able to use them.

    I loved how the second cop came in with violence of action. Came in the door with a purpose and went alpha baboon on the guy with no hesitation. Warmed my heart. The way he was coaching her at the end of the video, I wonder if he was her FTO, and she was turned out on her own like a week ago.
    Sounds like an accurate assessment to me.
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