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    Last edited by TexHill; 12-05-19 at 19:47.
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    Watching this just reminds me why I couldn't be a police officer and why I respect the men and women that are. I guess it's too bad the lady got shot, but then again she deserved it for raising that weirdo.

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    That was painful to watch. The female police officer has no business being in that situation. She has zero control over the subject, zero control over the situation, and frankly has no clue what she is doing. Good grief.
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    I'm tending to agree with Firefly here. There was a truckload of 'NOPE' in most of what she did other than staying in contact with and eyes on the suspect. Here's the thing that non cops just won't ever understand; there is no formula to apply to each and every situation when dealing with suspects. I've run tens of thousands of calls as a patrol officer and every single one is different, even the ones that are similar and even the ones dealing with a suspect I've dealt with before. Firefly and I or anyone else can MMQB this to death but we weren't there and neither was anyone else who might try. I can't even say exactly what I would have done as it played out and neither can anyone else with 100% certainty.
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    That head kick though..

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    Ummm...

    The LEO appears to be in a situation they do not have the brains, strength, fitness, or skills to deal with.
    Any one of the four and things would have ended more expeditiously.


    It’s not so much that they are guilty of a crime as,
    It’s more like they are one of those boaters with no business being out of eyesight of the coast going out in storm and having to be rescued and people die.
    “Where weapons may not be carried, it is well to carry weapons.”

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    Opinion of non-leo here. It was clear she could not control the situation early-on.
    She should have backed off/de-escalated until backup arrived.

    Fine-line of keeping distance and emotion low, but not letting the guy go for a weapon. Its gotta be a tough situation for her since she’s out-numbered and easily overpowered. I think going hands on with someone you cant control is bad.

    As for the miss/mom. Misses happen- but you have to train. On the flip-side mom was putting herself right there but not helping so a lot is on her. Dont want your son shot- control your 40-yr old baby-boy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AKDoug View Post
    That head kick though..
    Did he take his shoe off just for the kick? Seemed kinda weird.

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    Holy crap that is a lot of monologing....

    ‘It’s my right’ never works when interacting with the police, even if the police say it.

    Was the guy chemically impaired, or is he mentally compromised?

    I think she wanted to show that she could handle this and get the guy in cuffs before back up got there, but that backfired on her.

    Did she miss by 3 feet from 3 feet?

    I hope she found another line of work, because she is not suited for that job.
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    It's that simple.

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    I'm trying to figure why the dude under arrest wasn't cork screwed into the ground after about 2 minutes.
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