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26Inf is correct...it’s numbers like these that are the reason we don’t use anecdotal evidence as a quality measure. The DPMO between these brands would be a better measure, and/or any non-conformance reports and the outcome of those NCR’s (Disposition).
But I’d be shocked if that was ever available to anyone outside the respective companies.
Psalm 34:19
To argue with a person who renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead. ~ Thomas Paine
As some here know, I have a wide array of good quality ARs. I usually put my money on stuff I know will work. That said, here is what I just built with a PSA upper (first complete PSA upper I have bought). For months and months, I have had a McKay Enterprises lower that I built up sitting on my shelf trying to figure out what to do with it. Since it was in a basic configuration, my first thought was to do a simple M4 type build. As time went one, I deliberated about changing it up and doing a more of an upgraded build. After Christmas, I made a decision to just do a simple and inexpensive M4 type build and bought an Aero Precision phosphate M16 BCG and ordered a PSA 16" Carbine Length 5.56 NATO 1:7 M4 Nitride Freedom Upper (No BCG or CH). I also ordered a Primary Arms Micro SLx and absolute co-witness mount. I did utilize a charging handle and MAGPUL MBUS sight I already had laying around. Here is the finished product. I need to get it to the range next week to see how well it performs. I have no doubt that it will perform well.
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I like that. Despite my insistence on PSA not being a good “first/only” carbine choice, I do like what they are doing in many ways. Only reason I sold my PSA 16” Premium mid with FSB was to consolidate a bit. It was cool as something to hand a friend going to the range.
“God doesn’t need your good works, but your neighbor does.” - Luther
Please show proof where they were using fn rejects. I am not a big PSA fan but do Sprite they make the platform available to almost anyone. The owners brother (I believe part owner) is the industry rep on TOS and said this is not true.
Do I believe the FN barrels are made to the same QA/QC as a Centurion arms fn barrel.... No, but I don't believe they are rejects
I guess that they do runs for PSA with less QA/QC, run the equipment faster, and change out tooling less. As you can see from the manufacturing numbers above PSA produces a lot of guns and uppers. They are probably buying in really high volumes to get lower pricing. That is how the pricing is lower, not rejects
You’ll get the “I’ve priced at the best deal FN/given barrel maker will make at the highest volume, they can’t be getting these as firsts” line. People have thrown out the rejects allegation for a long time, but no one has been willing, to my knowledge, to actually provide any evidence whatsoever beyond pricing.
“God doesn’t need your good works, but your neighbor does.” - Luther
And the winner is... AR's for the masses. My first SBR upper is a BCM 12.5 but most of the time now I'm flogging a PSA 10.5 with my FM1 can on it. Reason I shoot the S### out of it. When I finished the can I wasn't a great can. It really sucked on 16 in barreled upper then I stuck it on the PSA it started showing better results, plus it's a heavy long pig. Now I shoot it like it's made for a MG to the point of burning off finish. When it starts to keyhole or baffle strikes I'll replace the barrel. So far way north of 2 k in ammo.
For my out the door rifle I'd grab it with BCM 12.5 and SiCo can or BCM light weight mid n SiCo can or 6920 n can Due to weight.
For a lot of people I know on a tight budget I've got them to start with a PSA and stripped lower, most have moved to second and third rifles. Some that's all they "want" or need, they might shoot 60 rnds a year.😣
One he's fully addicted to AR's now, and his daughter is and wants suppressor (s) for the win of a pro gun person who's is now a medical professional. It started with a PSA upper.
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It was one of the owners of PSA on TOS that said it waynt true, not a random. He is pretty transparent about things. Like I said, I am not running PSA for a main gun, but if people are going to throw out allegations like that they should be able to back them up
I am willing to bet what I posted is true regarding the FN barrels they use.. prove me wrong
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