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    Quote Originally Posted by Jsp10477 View Post
    OP, If you haven’t bought anything yet,

    https://clydearmory.com/colt-le6920-oem1.html

    If you buy a colt oem, pm me a shipping address and I’ll send you a set of colt hand guards and a trigger guard. No sense buying a rifle of questionable quality.
    I think OP is long gone.

    This thread has followed the usual formula:

    1) Asks about a product, in this case a PSA upper, for a 'build' and states his budget:

    Quote Originally Posted by kylebaker24 View Post
    Hey everyone I'm new to the Ar world, but was looking into building one of my own. Was wondering the qaulity of the Palmetto State armory complete uppers.

    The purpose would probably be a home defense gun/fun gun, for some range shooting. And for my budget I would like to keep it under 800 or 700 bucks, but I plan to build it little by little starting with the lower then just buying a complete upper
    2) Almost immediately someone knocks the product, in this case PSA, often calling the persons who offer positive reviews SINO's (shooter's in name only):

    Quote Originally Posted by MontanaMarine View Post
    I've got a few PSA uppers in 5.56 and 7.62x39. They all run just fine.,,,,,,,If you are looking for a serviceable, budget-friendly upper, buy PSA with confidence.
    Quote Originally Posted by Wake27 View Post
    Whole lot of nope here. Basic features, sure, they’re similar because they’re all basic.,,,,,,,,,PSAs are good if you truly can’t afford better, without saving for many more months. But that’s only their really cheap stuff and it should have the expectation of failure. Their CHF line is supposed to be better, but typically are so close in price to the actual good companies that it doesn’t make sense to buy them.
    3) Then we start ratcheting up the price with options that often don't fit the OP's budget or stated purpose, in this case by page two of the odyssey.

    4) The thread continues with advocates on both sides arguing the same points, with the OP having checked out of the thread, which in actuality was his to own, four days prior.

    5) Another typical thread.

    Mods, I'm thinking we are done here. Can I get an 'Amen?'
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    You're forgetting the part where the OP is warned about the very serious nature of those who post here, and how because of that they wouldn't trust brand X for their very serious needs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NWcityguy2 View Post
    You're forgetting the part where the OP is warned about the very serious nature of those who post here, and how because of that they wouldn't trust brand X for their very serious needs.
    Oh, yeah, that's my bad.

    Plenty of guys have died with malfunctioned PSA's/Aero's/Rock River/Windham/Bushmaster grasped in their hands during the many backyard gunfights we have each year.
    Last edited by 26 Inf; 01-06-20 at 17:06.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 26 Inf View Post
    Oh, yeah, that's my bad.

    Plenty of guys have died with malfunctioned PSA's/Aero's/Rock River/Windham/Bushmaster grasped in their hands during the many backyard gunfights we have each year.
    Next you’re going to say zombies aren’t real. Crazy talk!


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    Quote Originally Posted by 26 Inf View Post
    Oh, yeah, that's my bad.

    Plenty of guys have died with malfunctioned PSA's/Aero's/Rock River/Windham/Bushmaster grasped in their hands during the many backyard gunfights we have each year.
    It doesn't matter if you have thousands of rounds through the gun with zero malfunctions, you are a dead man walking if you grab it in a HD situation and there isn't an MPI stamp on the bolt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Shannon View Post
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    What, you don't remember the Night of the Living (Brain-)Dead in November 2008 and its sequel four years later? Zombies are not only real, they VOTE!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 26 Inf View Post
    I think OP is long gone.

    This thread has followed the usual formula:

    1) Asks about a product, in this case a PSA upper, for a 'build' and states his budget:



    2) Almost immediately someone knocks the product, in this case PSA, often calling the persons who offer positive reviews SINO's (shooter's in name only):





    3) Then we start ratcheting up the price with options that often don't fit the OP's budget or stated purpose, in this case by page two of the odyssey.

    4) The thread continues with advocates on both sides arguing the same points, with the OP having checked out of the thread, which in actuality was his to own, four days prior.

    5) Another typical thread.

    Mods, I'm thinking we are done here. Can I get an 'Amen?'
    I like how you deleted the part of my quote where I disagreed with the statement that PSA is pretty much the same thing the military has been issued for years. Did that not fit your agenda enough to be included?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Wake27 View Post
    I like how you deleted the part of my quote where I disagreed with the statement that PSA is pretty much the same thing the military has been issued for years. Did that not fit your agenda enough to be included?
    Those ........... things mean that you haven't included all the quote/paragraph/sentence/epistle/whatever, that there is something missing which in the writer's opinion isn't germane.

    Since I left out the part of the other person's statement about being the same as what the mil uses, I felt that your words regarding the issue weren't necessary.

    As far as my agenda, I have none other than fairness.

    Look at my posts, have I ever said PSA rifles were better than BCM? Have I ever said they were equal?

    My problem is with folks who obviously have a vested interest in company A's success, hanging shit by innuendo on company B.

    ETA: Here is what you wrote:

    Whole lot of nope here. Basic features, sure, they’re similar because they’re all basic. But they’re far from being about the same as our issues Colts and FNs. For the most part I agree.

    PSA’s consistency and QA/QC is known to be lacking at best, non-existent at worse. I haven't bough that much from them AR-wise within the last couple years. My limited experience with a couple of their uppers hasn't been problematic. I know several years ago folks were complaining abour QC and delivery times, I've never had a complaint with either.

    They make tons of guns that work, but they also make a much higher percentage of flawed guns and components than the better brands out there. My Take on this:

    Logic would dictate that if company A makes 10 times more widgets than company B, that if all things were equal, company A would have ten times the defective widgets reported as company B.


    I’ve been super happy that mine has right around 1k rounds through it without an issue, but the staking on the original BCG was super weak and I still expect it to fail at any point. My current one can shoot a 1” group at 50m while another one that I had was sitting at 3”.


    My take - since it hasn't failed within 1,000 rounds, why would you expect failure is imminent?

    PSAs are good if you truly can’t afford better, without saving for many more months. But that’s only their really cheap stuff and it should have the expectation of failure.

    Their CHF line is supposed to be better, but typically are so close in price to the actual good companies that it doesn’t make sense to buy them.

    Edited to eliminate the need for me to wear a necktie.
    Last edited by 26 Inf; 01-07-20 at 13:46.
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    Every Communist must grasp the truth. Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun. Our principle is that the Party commands the gun, and the gun must never be allowed to command the Party Mao Zedong, 6 November, 1938 - speech to the Communist Patry of China's sixth Central Committee

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    This feels like a good time to point out that discussion of better/best/as good as/good to go is pointless without an application.

    It is my personal opinion why so many people act as gatekeepers and FUDmongers in the AR world is because they bought what they think is a premium product, and then use it in a way that a budget product would its equal. Once again, application.

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    This also seems like a good time for me to become a viewer rather than an active participant. It just hit 50 degrees, I think I'll go shoot in a couple minutes.
    Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand by the President... - Theodore Roosevelt, Lincoln and Free Speech, Metropolitan Magazine, Volume 47, Number 6, May 1918.

    Every Communist must grasp the truth. Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun. Our principle is that the Party commands the gun, and the gun must never be allowed to command the Party Mao Zedong, 6 November, 1938 - speech to the Communist Patry of China's sixth Central Committee

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