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    Im not a big Glock guy but by all means that is a huge upgrade. Think, wait a couple years and we can buy some "dropped once and never fired" Glocks for cheap. No BS though, good for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grand58742 View Post
    Getting the thread back on track, I wonder why the 17 specifically? Why not the 19X like they submitted for the US pistol trials?

    Not dogging the 17 at all.

    Why 19X? If you can handle the extra .47" of the 17, the 19X offers nothing but disadvantages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firefly View Post
    I wonder if this will translate to surplus SP2009/2022s.

    They are actually not bad little guns and I’m not a sig person. If I were to buy a normal sig it’d be a 229
    That would be cool. I agree, nice pistol.

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    I wonder if the price points between the different 9mm Glock Platforms are anything significant on that purchasing scale. Maybe thats why the choice of the 17.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 17K View Post
    Why 19X? If you can handle the extra .47" of the 17, the 19X offers nothing but disadvantages.
    I guess the question would be why not the 19X? They spent a lot of time and money developing it and it's supposed to be pretty popular on the civvy market (don't know, I'm not a Glock guy).

    It just stands to reason they would market it as a viable option unless the French RFP called for a specific barrel length.

    What disadvantages are we discussing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grand58742 View Post
    I guess the question would be why not the 19X? They spent a lot of time and money developing it and it's supposed to be pretty popular on the civvy market (don't know, I'm not a Glock guy).

    It just stands to reason they would market it as a viable option unless the French RFP called for a specific barrel length.

    What disadvantages are we discussing?
    It's a Glock 19 with a 17 grip. I don't think that took a whole lot of engineering to get done, but I could be wrong.

    All the disadvantages that come with a shorter barrel, shorter and stiffer recoil spring, and shorter slide. The 17 is functionally more robust than a 19, and 26, and is easier to shoot.

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    UPDATE: Looks like it's a two-tone Gen 5:

    "The tender for the new pistols was launched in March 2019, with a number of competing pistols evaluated in ‘stringent testing’. The testing involved reliability trials and user field testing with Glock noting in their announcement statement that there was a ‘minimum expected lifetime of 26,350 rounds’ from French evaluators at the Section Technique de l’Armée de Terre."

    https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/...ces-new-glock/

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    Quote Originally Posted by 17K View Post
    It's a Glock 19 with a 17 grip. I don't think that took a whole lot of engineering to get done, but I could be wrong.

    All the disadvantages that come with a shorter barrel, shorter and stiffer recoil spring, and shorter slide. The 17 is functionally more robust than a 19, and 26, and is easier to shoot.
    Wait.. what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 17K View Post
    Why 19X? If you can handle the extra .47" of the 17, the 19X offers nothing but disadvantages.
    Quote Originally Posted by 17K View Post
    It's a Glock 19 with a 17 grip. I don't think that took a whole lot of engineering to get done, but I could be wrong.

    All the disadvantages that come with a shorter barrel, shorter and stiffer recoil spring, and shorter slide. The 17 is functionally more robust than a 19, and 26, and is easier to shoot.
    Wholly inconsistent with experience on my 19X/45s, and the observed experience of agency and individual users transitioning to them. Both quantitative and qualitative. I can barely keep track of my loaners as they are borrowed by others considering the switch from 17/19.
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    Transitioning to them from what?

    I shoot with a few solid shooters and none of us has seen the 19X that we play with do anything that a regular 19 can't do.

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