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    Quote Originally Posted by Firefly View Post
    How many times this week have you said: “Sayonara, adios, honcho, etc etc”?

    To me that would be where Chinese was in such use that it became like how we use borrow words. Remember the Alliance was based off Red China gaining supremacy. I thought it was clever.

    I mean look at how popular anime is now. You got black dudes rapping and tossing in Japanese words that everyone under 40 knows.

    Did you, at age 20, ever honestly hear the words “hentai, hikikomori, bukkake, tekoki, paizuri”?

    Given how you did Japanese karate I am sure you heard Sensei, Senpai, Kohai, Nani, Shogu”

    But I’m sure a lotta people know those words without googling and if you don’t then DONT GOOGLE them

    I mean if you are enough of a weeb then you can actually talk to another weeb in pidgin Japanese and be understood even if you would get looked at as a weirdo in Japan. They may understand you but you would be looked at as kinda weird/childish/perverse.

    So it was sorta visionary.
    I wasn't criticizing it. But there was more than just Zaijan being thrown around like Sayonara. And of course as a plot construct it made perfect sense. But while your average gaijin knows a dozen words in japanese, typically Americans don't know a single word or phrase of Chinese (mostly due to multiple dialects and conflicting romanizations).

    I just remember watching the show and being amazed that it was done at all, but it's one of those things that also made the show credible.

    As for Japanese, I was almost a fluent speaker and reader in the 80s, but even then I barely understood the concept of "magna" and simply assumed it was comic books like the Superman, Batman and Spiderman comics in the US. I had no understanding of anime or any of the offshoots because I thought they were simply cartoons like the ones we had. The first time I saw Hentai was pretty much the last time I saw hentai, it just wasn't my thing.
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    Chuck, we miss ya man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firefly View Post
    You are either really young or really old.

    To fully appreciate the show, you had to have been in the zeitgeist of when it was made. It was a sleeper mishmash of Space Confederates on the run, Anime, and a subversive take on the usual Sci Fi of the era. There was Battlestar, Farscape, Andromeda, and lots of flash in the pan on Sci Fi Channel.

    But this came on Primetime Fox and didn’t try to be anything too heady. People talked like regular people, the guns were based in reality, and you had people wearing a mishmash of clothes from cargo pants and a T shirt to Western attire to Asian influenced clothing.

    And it came out when it was pretty subversive to question the government.

    Someone watching it today might not like some of the effects or think its kinda weird. But at the time the CGI was really good.

    It was not near as popular then as it is now. It was this thing college kids told each other to watch. The girl in the suitcase was straight lifted from Outlaw Star.

    You had to have been there to fully take it all in.
    Nah, I was the perfect age to get sucked in, I just didn't. Many of my friends did, and again, I thought the show was fine, just not amazing. It may have been the mix-mash of Confederate sympathies and anime that failed to hook me; neither strike my fancy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha-17 View Post
    Nah, I was the perfect age to get sucked in, I just didn't. Many of my friends did, and again, I thought the show was fine, just not amazing. It may have been the mix-mash of Confederate sympathies and anime that failed to hook me; neither strike my fancy.
    Oh. We will likely never be friends then as I am a Confederate American who likes his dirty oriental cartoons.

    But that’s okay. Not into SCARs either.

    Different strokes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha-17 View Post
    Nah, I was the perfect age to get sucked in, I just didn't. Many of my friends did, and again, I thought the show was fine, just not amazing. It may have been the mix-mash of Confederate sympathies and anime that failed to hook me; neither strike my fancy.
    Same. I was perfect age to have been a fan. I watched a few episodes and just didn’t get into it. Several buddies liked it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Firefly View Post
    Oh. We will likely never be friends then as I am a Confederate American who likes his dirty oriental cartoons.

    But that’s okay. Not into SCARs either.

    Different strokes
    Agreed, to each their own. This isn't the SW sequel trilogy, after all, where if you don't like it you're (insert insult of choice here) and if you do like it you're a Disney sellout.
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    Joss Whedon has passed his use-by date, and too much time has passed for the cast compared to where we left off.

    To top it all off there's not only an excellent sci-fi epic currently "airing" (streaming) in The Expanse, there's now also a perfectly fine space western out there by the name of The Mandalorian.

    Timing couldn't really be worse. We had a sci-fi drought a few years back, they missed their shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    LOL. There was more Chinese in FF than some Shaw Bros. films, but I thought it was an interesting twist, kind of like the heavy Japanese influence on US culture in Blade Runner.

    And yeah, I completely missed the original run. I discovered it on DVD because people on certain forums wouldn't stop talking about it. I discovered Justified the same way.
    The DVD release was the only good way to watch it, the original broadcast was sabotaged by the studio playing the episodes out of sequence. It really screwed with the continuity of the show. How could anyone not like this, cowboys and outlaws in space, the man is bad but also incompetent but mostly incompetent, the muscle is named Jane, a high class hooker lives on board, the captain and crew just want to be left alone not to mention Vera.
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    It will need Joss Whedon to stand a chance at being any good.

    Quote Originally Posted by joffe View Post
    Joss Whedon has passed his use-by date, and too much time has passed for the cast compared to where we left off.

    To top it all off there's not only an excellent sci-fi epic currently "airing" (streaming) in The Expanse, there's now also a perfectly fine space western out there by the name of The Mandalorian.

    Timing couldn't really be worse. We had a sci-fi drought a few years back, they missed their shot.
    The Expanse now has some heavy western themes, although given the tie ins for the next season left in this latest one, it looks like a lot of the next season will be political skullduggery.
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    I'd be open to a reboot. Loved the original, but nothing says a reboot might not be better with a new/younger cast.

    When BSG was filming (I used to know Grace Park), people were saying how stupid it would be but she told me the sets were amazing and the writing was really good. She was proven correct (she was there). I prefer the reboot to the original.

    I also prefer Discovery to TheOriginalSeries (TOS means something else on this forum) in Star Trek.

    Nothing wrong with moving forward. Doesn't take away from the past. Just because you love your fat ribbed heat shield hand guards doesn't mean an MLOK rail can't work decently.
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