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Thread: All purpose tactical shotgun, pump vs semi?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kirkland View Post
    Can I ask approximately what year you purchased yours? Mine was from the early 2000's haven't had a single issue with birdshot, buckshot or slugs in both 2 3/4 or 3". I think Remington quality has gone way downhill and wouldn't purchase one now, but I guess there were better years.
    After 2010, freedom group purchased Remington in 2007.


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    Wake, is Freedom group, a good thing, or a bad thing. How did the purchase impact Remington

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirk Williams View Post
    Wake, is Freedom group, a good thing, or a bad thing. How did the purchase impact Remington

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    Bad thing - from what’s been widely reported online, they’ve bought several brands and made obvious cuts to their costs (QA/QC) to try and increase their profit margin. People say the 870Ps are still good but I don’t know why you’d even gamble, much less buy from a company like that.


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    AGREED

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrHandsome View Post
    No, I’m more of a buy once cry once kind of guy. Only I seem to be crying a lot these days.
    Benellie M4, next question.

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    Picked up a Stoger semiauto, M3K, M3000. Set up for three gun, dude needed money got it cheap. Got all the aftermarket extensions and plugs, big knobs and levers.

    Don't know much about Stoger, other then what I've read. Which says it's a decent SG. But NOT a great SG.

    Also retrieved my Mossberg 930 the " BlackWater" version last week. Has a pistol,grip on the stock, I'm finding this difficult to access the mossberg saftey up on top, without sliding my hand physically off the trigger housing, for access. An un natural move in my humble opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thwack View Post
    No question. Simplicity = pump
    That's like saying that a single-action revolver is simpler than a double-action revolver.

    I guess that's true in terms of the mechanism, but what could be simpler than "bang-bang-bang"? (That's simpler than "bang-pump-bang-pump.")


    Quote Originally Posted by Dirk Williams View Post
    Picked up a Stoger semiauto, M3K, M3000. Set up for three gun, dude needed money got it cheap. Got all the aftermarket extensions and plugs, big knobs and levers.

    Don't know much about Stoger, other then what I've read. Which says it's a decent SG. But NOT a great SG.
    There's a huge thread over on Brian Enos' forum about these.

    My 2¢: Buying somebody's competition gun is like buying somebody's race car... It's nice to have all the goodies, but you've got to assume that it's been run hard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirk Williams View Post
    Picked up a Stoger semiauto, M3K, M3000. Set up for three gun, dude needed money got it cheap. Got all the aftermarket extensions and plugs, big knobs and levers.

    Don't know much about Stoger, other then what I've read. Which says it's a decent SG. But NOT a great SG.

    Also retrieved my Mossberg 930 the " BlackWater" version last week. Has a pistol,grip on the stock, I'm finding this difficult to access the mossberg saftey up on top, without sliding my hand physically off the trigger housing, for access. An un natural move in my humble opinion.

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    Yes, the Mossbergs and tactical stocks are kind of non-tactical.
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    Bimmer, good point. What would you call a high round count for any gamer shotgun?. Have zero problems replacing what needs replaced. Honestly looking at this unit, inside and out, I see very little wear. I have not measured anything. But parts are not a problem.

    For what I paid, I have a lot of wiggle room on part replacement costs.

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    Yea the stock sucks. I've got a friend looking into that " right" stock, straight stock to put back on this unit. I really like the SG, just not the stock.

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