USA tipping point

[prepare]

There is no difference between communism and socialism,
except in the means of achieving the same ultimate end:
communism proposes to enslave men by force, socialism - by vote.
It is merely the difference between murder and suicide.
Ayn Rand

[Boy Scout]

As to the ETA of a tipping point, I'm of the postulation that one big event that is turned into a media debacle can rapidly change public perception and embolden the legislature to be more tyrannical. Lobby day has a significant possibility to become that point if the leftist operatives have their way, and the MSM plays into their hand. Do I think that IS THE event? No, but with tensions the way they are, I can see it happening. The country, and the world is watching.

Beyond that, I think the 10 months to 10 years is a good estimation. I think the crux will be IF one of the current Democrat Socialists obtains the White House and both houses of Congress go left. Again, I don't see the 2020 election going that way, but if there's an even bigger (supposed) culture shift and further slide of the Overton Window that allows it in 2024, THAT will be downhill slide, and it will go FAST.


As for what I'm doing: I'm physically training, financially and logistically preparing, I'm encouraging others to vote for Constitutional candidates, passing out copies of the Constitution, and organizing a network of Constitutionally-minded citizens to create mutual support groups (purposes are multi-faceted) that encourage the creation of more Constitutional PACs and lobbying groups.

[Alex V]

Here’s the problem; the left will use any means necessary to achieve their totalitarian utopia. They will cheat, lie and steal. They will commit voter fraud. They are willing to crash the stock market and cause a recession. They are willing to ignore the Constitution as Gov Blackface did. They know they can because they have enough leftist judges to approve of their crimes and bend the law to make it acceptable. They are willing to commit violence [ANTIFA] and riot. Burn down cities. They are willing to impeach a president for no crime. If he wins in 2020, and they keep the House, rest assured they will impeach him again. If for no other reason than to say that he was the only POTUS impeached twice. They are literally willing to put you in a GULag.

In order to oppose them we are willing to debate, peacefully assemble, make phone calls, post on FB. If Republicans ever take the house back, when there is a Democrat POTUS, do you think they will put on the same show and conduct a BS impeachment? I think not. They have no spine. We are so in love with the idea of our republic that we are unwilling to bend the rules as they do.

We are, pun intended, bringing a stabby stab to a yeet cannon boogaloo. We can not and we will not win if we don’t fight them by their rules. I know the saying about wrestling with a pig but it’s about time we start liking being covered in mud.

[FlyingHunter]

To address the how to:

1. Peaceably
2. Openly plan and execute geographical/societal belief structure Balkanization similar to the dissolution of the USSR.
3. A microcosm of this is presently occurring with the 2A sanctuary counties making a public stand against the socialist counties.
4. It was fun while it lasted, let's go our separate ways before it gets ugly.

[prepare]

Reality about violence well let’s look at the Vegas mass shooting or others did it change anything politically ? Nope
How about all the antifa riot thugs all the time smashing things up ? Nothing again
Sure they create stories and fingers point that’s about it

McVeigh made a statement but really it did not change anything either
Look at cities and gang violence deaths etc... does not even make the news

So this I will go do something violent is a fantasy for change

I have said you have to do what the cartels are doing to be noticed and that means groups the size of small armies being able to payoff or kill anyone in your way and doing insane things politicians being paid off or beheaded same with news folks etc.... and that will never happen here by either side and if it did we are not the US anymore anyway


Abortion has killed more babies in the US then Hitler ever did in war and the left thinks it’s empowering and cheers folks that do this ! Sadly this is the world we live in today

I agree the types of violence you mentioned are all stupid and senseless and even down right sickening.

The military is quite good at direct action assaults on an objective to remove bad players though.

What I would really like to see are some of these political hacks that are above the law start being prosecuted legally. Comey, Muller, Pelosi, Northam, Hering, etc.

[OldState]

I have pondered the likely future of this country many times in my mind. As an avid American and constitutional history buff I try to keep things in that context. The good thing is the current president has been placing quite a bit of constitutionalist judges which are more important than any political race. The US constitution is an impediment the left so they’re going to have to find a way to change it which is a long game for them.
The biggest issue I see.... that I cannot figure out how it will resolve...is the rural vs Urban cultural divide. One possibility that you’re starting to hear about in Virginia is secession of counties from states. I feel like something like this will happen in the next 50 years. In states like New York Illinois California and even Pennsylvania. You will see the counties try to remove themselves politically from the cities I think.

[The_War_Wagon]

There is no difference between communism and socialism,
except in the means of achieving the same ultimate end:
communism proposes to enslave men by force, socialism - by vote.
It is merely the difference between murder and suicide.
Ayn Rand

Made me think of this.

[jsbhike]

There is no difference between communism and socialism,
except in the means of achieving the same ultimate end:
communism proposes to enslave men by force, socialism - by vote.
It is merely the difference between murder and suicide.
Ayn Rand

True. Something that gets me is there is very little difference between communism and fascism. Antifa/communists and so on have some valid gripes concerning fascism/crony capitalism, but their solution of giving more control to half the problem is assinine at best.

If anything, a large number of people living under communism/socialism in the 1940's tended to choose fascism over their own form of government. Somewhat of a better deal until the fascist invaders got the red ass towards a person's particular demographic at least.

[Honu]

Agree but military action won’t happen if it does our country is over anyway and it’s back to how do we come out the other side
Prosecution YUP sadly republicans have no backbone but agree this is what needs to happen somehow

I think our big moments are going to be every election moving forward

I agree the types of violence you mentioned are all stupid and senseless and even down right sickening.

The military is quite good at direct action assaults on an objective to remove bad players though.

What I would really like to see are some of these political hacks that are above the law start being prosecuted legally. Comey, Muller, Pelosi, Northam, Hering, etc.

[Spiffums]

To address the how to:

1. Peaceably
2. Openly plan and execute geographical/societal belief structure Balkanization similar to the dissolution of the USSR.
3. A microcosm of this is presently occurring with the 2A sanctuary counties making a public stand against the socialist counties.
4. It was fun while it lasted, let's go our separate ways before it gets ugly.

And them lose their tax bases? Cally and NY would lose their shit over that one. Both would wage war on the rest to claim the taxes back.