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    Quote Originally Posted by M Sadler View Post
    Better than mil-spec is a specious concept.
    Bingo.

    Requirements drive the specification. If you want a better AKA different spec, start by identifying what you want the product to do, then figure out how to get it there. Something like:

    Increase MRBF vs M4A1 carbine by 5+%, 10+% suppressed
    Add ambidexterity features that are backwards compatible with legacy M4A1 carbine
    Accuracy standard is minimum 2 MOA 10 shot group using Black Hills Mk262
    Barrel shall be free floated to minimize deflection while shooting from barricades or bipods
    Decrease or eliminate the need for lubrication of the operating system
    Increase barrel life by 10+% vs M4A1 carbine
    Decrease weight by 1+% vs M4A1 carbine
    Ergonomic improvements shall be considered for use with body armor and shooting from a "squared" stance


    Blah blah blah
    Quote Originally Posted by Jaykayyy
    And to the guys whining about spending more on training, and relying less on the hardware, you just sound like your [sic] trying to make yourself feel superior.

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    If you are going to do a "better than mil spec" thread and give examples, shouldn't those offering examples give a few words as to why their offering is better than mil spec?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Bullseye View Post
    If you are going to do a "better than mil spec" thread and give examples, shouldn't those offering examples give a few words as to why their offering is better than mil spec?
    I did, in the very first post.

    Here’s a build as an example;

    BCM UPPER ASSEMBLY- Milspec
    Sionics medium contour barrel- not milspec (barrel profile)
    Sionics nitride has tube- not milspec (nitride)
    Giessele Gas Block? Not sure
    SLGW M76 rail? Not sure

    BCM Lower- not milspec (not full auto or full auto inner dimensions
    BCM LPK- milspec
    Semi auto triggers are not milspec
    SLGW BCG- almost milspec except for the extractor spring

    Hardly anything listed is true milspec.
    Last edited by prepare; 01-16-20 at 13:21.
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    Not hard to top mil-spec:

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    Quote Originally Posted by prepare View Post
    I did, in the very first post.

    Here’s a build as an example;

    BCM UPPER ASSEMBLY- Milspec
    Sionics medium contour barrel- not milspec (barrel profile)
    Sionics nitride has tube- not milspec (nitride)
    Giessele Gas Block? Not sure
    SLGW M76 rail? Not sure

    BCM Lower- not milspec (not full auto or full auto inner dimensions
    BCM LPK- milspec
    Semi auto triggers are not milspec
    SLGW BCG- almost milspec except for the extractor spring

    Hardly anything listed is true milspec.
    Yeah, but is any of that better and how did you quantify it? I don't understand WTF nitriding a gas tube is supposed to do besides make it more expensive though.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jaykayyy
    And to the guys whining about spending more on training, and relying less on the hardware, you just sound like your [sic] trying to make yourself feel superior.

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    Springco springs
    H2/H3 buffers
    PNC triggers


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    Quote Originally Posted by just a scout View Post
    Springco springs
    H2/H3 buffers
    PNC triggers

    Sprinco green rifle spring in a Vltor A5 buffer system with A5H2 buffer. Increase service interval; increase operational window for weak/strong ammo, lubrication, suppressed/unsupressed and cleanliness/dirtiness; reduce muzzle movement under recoil.

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    G SSA Trigger.
    A5 buffer system
    LMT E BCG
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    Hammer forged barrels
    Improved trigger assembly, e.g., Geissele
    One of the enhanced BCG's
    Improved spring materials and/or designed. Braided wire, captured, etc..
    Mid gas system.

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    My biggest peeve about "mil-spec" is that there isn't one for 7.62, how nice would it be to have that to start from.
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