Fudds Vs Gun grabbers

[SteyrAUG]

I was interested in the Glocks and ARs and they were showing them to me one day. A crabby old vet with scrambled egg on his cap bill injected himself into the conversation and informed me that 'Them guns is just fer killin' people '.

My standard response is "thank god a deer rifle won't kill a man." Sometimes takes them a minute but it's always funny when the wheel finally turns.

[Diamondback]

Too bad Elmer Fudd is too illiterate to read the other team's playbook... they've already put in writing that the next step after "evil military assault rifles" is "evil highpower sniper rifles made only for cowards to murder from a distance."

Read for yourself and circulate, this is one of their own internal documents: http://healthyinfluence.com/wordpres...uide-pdf-1.pdf

[Boba Fett v2]

Dude our own “like minded” people do it online, like hey! That better not be a VFG your oal is to short... oh you built your own can? You can’t fix it only an SOT can... OMG is that an extra baffle??? I’m calling ATF on you.


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[Diamondback]

Lemme just drop one thought: If you're willing to defend others' firearms and rights even though your interests within the field are not the same as theirs, you're not a Fudd and I'll defend your rights as you would mine. If you're a damn Butter who throws everybody else to the wolves hoping they'll be sated before it's your turn on the menu, then you're just another damn turncoat collaborator no matter what your "sphere of interest."

As a community we need to focus on the idea that, much like NATO, "an attack on one is an attack on all."

[SeriousStudent]

Don't forget the significant intervention of Pat Rogers (RIP) and Denny Hansen with Jim Zumbo. M4C thread here: https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread...rticle-in-SWAT

Pat's comments from 2007 still ring true.

Uncle Pat (God rest his soul) always made a lot of sense.

[Biggy]

Fudd's will eventually all die, and IMHO, our younger generations will probably and ultimately decide our future gun rights in this country.

[Diamondback]

Fudd's will eventually all die, and IMHO, our younger generations will probably and ultimately decide our future gun rights in this country.

This is why we have to work to "feed the addiction" in our young shooters, and this is why the Left tries to throw up barriers-to-entry like banning gun/ammo sales in the 18-21 zone.

[TMS951]

Fudd's will eventually all die, and IMHO, our younger generations will probably and ultimately decide our future gun rights in this country.

This is a great point, and not one that had occurred to me.

Hunting is a dying sport, I have previously heard people say that hunting as a sport helps preserve the 2A. Upon reflection of this thought I realize that hunting helps create more fudds, not more 2A defenders.

Now while hunting is on a decline, black rifle purchase is growing. It is growing among a younger generation. There will come a time in the future where the image of an AR15 will be that of a standard rifle, a younger of generation of gun owners won't be scared by these evil black rifles and buy a wood stock mini-14 instead because it looks civilized.

But we have to get over a hurdle first. That hurdle is an older generation that thinks if it doesn't have a wood stock its uncivilized and is for killing people. But a little wood, oh thats a whole other world, nothing wrong with that.

My father is a perfect example of this. A boomer born in 53'. In 1976 he went out and bought himself a Ruger Mini-14. Not an Ar-15, so mean and evil in all black, but a nice civilized wood stocked Ruger with no evil features. I grew up wanting us to have an AR-15, he always said he wouldn't buy one. He thinks we need better gun laws, he's not against a ban.

We need to weather the storm until my fathers generation is no longer part of 'gun owners' we rely on to defend the 2nd. If we make there will come a day when most 'gunowners' are pro black rifle ect.

Look at the Virginia deal, awesome turn out. But where were all the Fudds? Oh, thats right, at home oiling the wood stocks on their bolt action hunting rifles.

After reading this thread and thinking on it, while not a hunter I used to support/defend it because I was defending gun owners. But now, I realize it actually does nothing to protect my black rifles. So if hunting continues to decline I couldn't give a rats aas, I won't be doing my part to help get the next generation out there.

The Colin Noir Video that was put up was very good, but heres my rebuttal. There were four types of gun owners, Tactical, Collector, competitor and Hunter. The tactical, competitor and collector would all be effected by a ban. All want to be able to buy everything for their respective purposes. ...But the Hunter. The Hunter only needs a single shot bolt action to hunt. Collectors, competitors and tactical gun owners all need to stick together. But maybe they need to not bother with considering Fudds to be friends and just wait for them to go away.

[marco.g]

Most fudds don’t realize that shooters fund their ability to enjoy the outdoors via the Pittman Robertson act funding. A 10-11% tax is levied on guns and ammo and then invested back into conservation. Now - I like public lands and I used to hunt more, now I just fish. So I’m not saying this is a total negative.

The tax revenue on 2 cases of 223 is more than the annual box of .30-06. So if they would just accept this fact and be quiet about what we do with all that ammo, that would be nice too.

[Diamondback]

Most fudds don’t realize that shooters fund their ability to enjoy the outdoors via the Pittman Robertson act funding. A 10-11% tax is levied on guns and ammo and then invested back into conservation. Now - I like public lands and I used to hunt more, now I just fish. So I’m not saying this is a total negative.

The tax revenue on 2 cases of 223 is more than the annual box of .30-06. So if they would just accept this fact and be quiet about what we do with all that ammo, that would be nice too.

If only we could get a portion of P-R diverted to fund public ranges on BLM/Forest Service/other appropriate Federal lands... maybe even partner with orgs like Trash No Land to keep things clean and orderly. I'd say charge a low, purely nominal "day pass" fee but then Elmer would whine about "MUH FREE LUNCHEZ!" and then go trash the woods...