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    Help Me Update My Gun

    Hey guys, I built this gun quite a few years ago and I’m thinking it might be a little outdated in terms of overall setup. I wanted to get some thoughts on how I could freshen this gun up and bring it more current.

    Starting from the rear, it’s a Magpul stock of some kind. I don’t remember which though. The little compartment in the stock is kind of useless to me. I’m ambivalent to the stock. I could be convinced to swap it or I could be talked into leaving it.

    On top is the Burris Tac30 1-4x. I would have rather had a PA with the ACSS reticle, but this has done the job and I’m fairly happy with it. The mount is a Burris PEPR which aside from being on the heavy/bulky side, has been a good mount. I could really be talked into going with strictly a red dot only, but I already have 2 other SBRs with red dots so I’d kind of like to stay with the LPVO style optic on this gun.

    Grip is the Magpul MOE+ with the rubber texture. I am ambivalent toward it also. Could he talked into keeping it, could be talked into changing it.

    Handguard is the biggest thing I want to change. This was before the days of Mlok and KeyMod where you had to attach little rail sections to the handguard if you wanted to attach something, hence why I have nothing mounted on it. I want to swap it with a MLOK handguard for sure. My first question is do I go with 13” and have a little barrel exposed or do I stick with the 15” guard like I already have? I kind of like the look of a 13” handguard with a little barrel out the end.

    Then comes attachments. I definitely want to run some kind of hand stop or vertical grip to be used as more of a hand stop. Open to any MLOK suggestions for this. Then I’m thinking I may not need a light since I have lights on my SBRs and this gun isn’t really going to be used for close range situations. I will also be adding a sling once I get the handguard changed out.

    Lastly is the flash hider. I’m using a Rock River compensator that I’m also kind of ambivalent toward. I could change it or I could keep it. I don’t have a suppressor so I don’t need any kind of suppressor-ready flash hider and I don’t want something too wild.

    I think those are the main areas of the gun I wanted to change. Lower, trigger, upper, BCG, and barrel are all still good to go. Let me know what you all suggest. Thanks!

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    I would get a pile of ammo and shoot the rifle until whatever needs to be changed becomes evident. The exception would be the muzzle device. I'd change that for an A2 birdcage or BRT Covert Comp simply because I cant stand brakes. If you want a handstop, one can be added to the handguard you got with a little ingenuity.
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    I’ve already shot this gun quite a bit. But I’m just a civilian, so I don’t really “run and gun” per se. I’m not exactly sure that anything DOESN’T work. It’s more about how can it work a little better maybe?

    The MLOK handguard is my biggest want I think. That and to maybe shave a little weight off the gun.

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    My opinion only
    That stock looks like a ACS-L and that little compartment is handy for extra batteries for the scope, I would keep that.
    Not familiar with the scope but unless it has a daylight bright dot I would replace with the PA or even a Steiner P4xi.

    I would replace the handguard with a LaRue 13" LAT because IMO that is the best rail for the money right now.

    https://www.larue.com/products/larue...ny-handguards/

    For trigger I would go LaRue MBT for same reason as rail, cost/quality.

    https://www.larue.com/products/larue...bt-1s-trigger/

    For a muzzle device I would go A2 as a minimum.

    Then I would add a white light.
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    What are the details on upper/lower/lpk/barrel/etc.?

    If it were me I'd just sell it and go buy new what you want.

    Primary Arms now carries Sionics so I'd just snag an upper, BCH, complete lower, and then a Radian charging handle and be done.

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    That gun looks brand new...shoot it till it dies. I guarantee you will understand what needs to be changed after that while spending less $$$.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vicious_cb View Post
    That gun looks brand new...shoot it till it dies. I guarantee you will understand what needs to be changed after that while spending less $$$.
    Like I said, it’s been shot quite a bit. Just not running and gunning.

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    I'm honestly not seeing much that would need to be changed. If you want to lose weight, go ahead and get a 13" MLOK rail and A2 flash suppressor on the end. It won't save much weight, but it will shed a little.

    Have you tried the BCM grips? A BCM grip with backstraps might tailor things a bit for you and the fore end/ grips are available as MLOK as well. BCM grips alter the angle and are a little more straight up and down, and the VFG has an agle which rakes forward or rearward depending on how its installed. It might feel great for you, it might not feel much different at all, but its an option.

    Honestly the rail you have now is pretty light.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olympus View Post
    Like I said, it’s been shot quite a bit. Just not running and gunning.
    What does that mean?

    Anyways, I'd sell the upper and start over, or at least get a BCM MCMR rail:
    https://bravocompanyusa.com/bcm-mcmr...-modular-rail/

    I'd drop that optic and mount combo like it's hot. Pick up a Vortex Viper PST Gen 2 1x-6x:
    https://www.eurooptic.com/Vortex-Vip...-PST-1605.aspx

    And a LT204 mount in 30mm:
    https://www.larue.com/products/lt204/

    Ditch that heavy stock and get a new one:
    https://www.primaryarms.com/magpul-m...ack-mag347-blk

    Get a Dead Air brake:
    https://www.joeboboutfitters.com/Dea.../daa-brake.htm

    Keep the grip, it's a good one.

    Get a BCM stubby vertical grip:
    https://bravocompanyusa.com/bcmgunfi...patible-black/

    Buy an mlok sling mount:
    https://www.impactweaponscomponents....g-mount-m-lok/

    And a VCAS sling w/metal hardware:
    https://www.impactweaponscomponents....inum-hardware/

    Get two QD swivels:
    https://www.impactweaponscomponents....ton-qd-swivel/

    Strongly consider a light if this may end up being a defensive gun:
    https://clouddefensive.com/product/l...light-hlx-kit/

    And light mount:
    https://www.impactweaponscomponents....ntail-2-m-lok/

    If that LPVO is too much, look into PA or Burris:
    https://www.primaryarms.com/200472
    https://www.primaryarms.com/pa-1-6x2...-reticle-black

    Look no further than the Larue MBT for trigger:
    https://www.larue.com/products/larue...bt-2s-trigger/

    Build this setup and be happy

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    I'll echo the sentiment that it's fine as-is. Instead, how many ARs do you have? If just the one, I'd take the opportunity to buy new in the set-up of your choosing, make it your primary, and save this one as a proven back-up.

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