(COVID/ETC CONTENT HERE) China Locks Down 11 Million in Wuhan,

Originally Posted by Inkslinger

I had a thought today. If there is still a threat of Islamic terrorism on US soil, and supposed cells/lone wolves in the country, they are certainly missing out on a huge opportunity to send us into an even bigger tailspin.

Not now, after we make the turn would be when to extend this.

Tactical tips for the Bug-a-loo:
You can hunt millennials from downwind because they reek of weed.
Tactically approach people from their left-hand side because they invariably seem to have their phone up to their ear, providing concealment.

Originally Posted by FromMyColdDeadHand

Not now, after we make the turn would be when to extend this.

Tactical tips for the Bug-a-loo:
You can hunt millennials from downwind because they reek of weed.
Tactically approach people from their left-hand side because they invariably seem to have their phone up to their ear, providing concealment.

Would be easier to bump off all the self absorbed boomers that got us into this mess in the first place


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A bit of a correction to what was stated earlier.

Cold, low humidity conditions favor the spread of viruses similar to this one. Warm, humid conditions inhibit it.

The viruses of this type do not most favor cold, humid conditions but rather cold dry conditions. Humidity when high does not favor viral transmission.

Cold and flu season is dry and cold. Think about it. This has been tested experimentally and confirmed. Cold air by its very nature carries less humidity than warm air.

We hope it will apply to this virus as well.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4097773/

Nope, not the Onion:

Coronavirus: Armed robbers steal hundreds of toilet rolls in Hong Kong

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-51527043

But wait, there's more, armed men in gun free Denmark:

Masked men stormed the emergency room at Herlev Hospital

The police have surveillance pictures of Denmark's most miserable, selfish and cynical thieves, but have chosen not to use them yet. The staff at Herlev Hospital were shocked when masked thieves stormed the emergency room to steal booze and masks

https://ekstrabladet.dk/nyheder/samf...spital/8049942

Originally Posted by Warg

A some have posited, we're not sure if there will be a seasonal affect with regard to COVID-19. In laboratory controlled conditions, the virus survives longer in cooler, humid climates. Thus, like other CoVs, it is sensitive to ultraviolet rays and heat, but there's not a lot of direct evidence of this in the real world.
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Flattening the curve is the key right now and standard protocols are being followed with respect to any standard, infectious disease epidemic. With respect to the epidemic curves, the US and W Europe is still in the growth phase.

Working high up in a large global IT firm, I'm directly involved in tracking impact in the 30-35 countries we have employees in.

Some data points we see (directly and from local country health officials):

- So far, hot and humid areas show no reduced rate of spread. We have a statistically significant employee population in certain countries.

- India is at about the same phase as the US, maybe a week behind. Rest of Europe is 1-2 weeks ahead of the US (in general). US may be underreported.

- flattening the curve is only reasonable response at this point, with all that goes with it. (We are serious about that aspect)

- there is serious concern about a second wave late summer or fall

For awareness, we have operations in just about every current hot infected zone.

Likewise, even island nations are infected. Maybe NZ can avoid community spread. I don't think Aus can.

I have employees and coworkers in countries under effectively or literally martial law. All are ok so far. But they are scared with what they see. Note they do not have CNN or your favorite mainstream media we love to hate.

My one China guy is in good shape, he bolted to Shanghai and dodged it.

Personally, I have no idea what the impact might be. I hope it's only as bad as a cold like some wail. But indications are for senior citizens its much worse.

I have 22 confirmed infected in my county including an HS teacher and a preschool. And about 30 in the next county where everyone works. It's here and spreading. All we can try to do is slow it down.

Our state numbers doubled in 2-3 days, nature of community infection.

Rough math: ~6M people x 10% infection rate x 3% mortality avg= 18k deaths. In what, an 8-10 wk period? Incremental to the flu. I'm hoping we can reduce to just a 10% infection rate. What is typical, 25%? I'm sure someone will tell me the numbers are all wrong. I'm not an epidemiologist. But I know enough to know that even very conservatively, statistically someone I know will die from this thing before its over with. And hospitals are likely to be overwhelmed.A

Not trying to fear monger, the opposite. Flatten the curve. Don't waste time/money on things that won't make a bit of difference. Do the things that will.

From a post Whiskey Bravo made:

Six Bay Area counties are expected to demand residents shelter in place for the next three weeks as health officials scramble to keep coronavirus from spreading across the region.

Anyone catch that part? It seems that the two week thing doesn't cut it. I heard Trump himself say today that the Feds are recommending 18 days. Hmmm.....I know we are still learning about this crap and have to shift on the fly but that recommended original two week time frame apparently isn't sufficient.

People still testing positive after two weeks? People still actually sick after two weeks? Remember the guy in quarantine that was on FOX News and got the Omaha steaks delivered? It turns out, as of March 10, that he was still in quarantine for 33 days!

Originally Posted by Adrenaline_6

Totally agree on this. Crying wolf causes future problems.

Growing up in S Florida, lessons usually have to get relearned every decade or so. With fatalities. There is a natural over reaction under reaction cycle that will occur. Guarantee. We're probably in the over-reaction, certainly from a public behavior aspect.

Is the CDC crying wolf? Pretty much every other national, state and local gov? The Army?

I really think the people who are not following social distancing and "flatten the curve" approaches are either very ignorant or being deliberately obtuse. That includes folks hanging out in bars. Like hurricanes they'll be the ones who say they didn't know. (My brother had to turn a classroom into a morgue for an avoidable fatality in very mild hurricane.) Or be the small percentage who shows up at the hospital saying they can't breathe. And not get a ventilator.

Remember Italy and now Spain are paying a very high price for their gregarious social behavior. I've had the recent experience of a family member in a Spanish emergency room. And their medics prior to that. And the same for US ERs.

I'm not saying there's not differences, but I do not believe personally that is what caused Italy and Spain to spike so fast and overrun facilities.

So enjoy that time in Margeritaville while you can. I know how short beds can be in Dade county hospitals, much less the Keys. And a niece nurse in west florida treating cases. Yep oldsters, as is most of S FL.

Flatten the curve

Originally Posted by WillBrink

So I'm walking my dog and a dude just yelled at me I was a virus spreading cracker. Mid 40s black gentlemen. Looked homeless, people already at their limits of containment may get kicked off to do stupid things under the pressure.

Had a similar thing happen nearly two decades ago.

PSA is closed. $&&@

Originally Posted by Vic79

I’ll try to decipher the cryptic message for you. Things are currently Squirrley, I think there’s a good chance things are going to get western here shortly.

Reminds me of the 3 Levels of Ping:
Level 1: SNAFU
Level 2: FUBAR
Level 3: KMACYOYO

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