(COVID/ETC CONTENT HERE) China Locks Down 11 Million in Wuhan,

Originally Posted by flenna

Maybe I have overlooked it, but what is going on in Russia? Are they unaffected by this mess? I haven't seen anything in the news about them.

Russia is showing 306 cases and if you believe that I've got a Chinese bridge I want to sell you.

I'm starting to wonder what this country will look like once this big freak out is over and done with. There were suppose to be plans and contingencies in place for just this kind of scenario, but from what I have seen, it doesn't appear to be so. For the most part, gubbamint agencies appear to still be in a somewhat reactionary mode of operation. I'm not talking just the CDC, but all the gubbamint agencies, federal, state and local. Total score of F on the report card for all subjects. I can see some areas reacting with logical steps to put some things in place should this happen again, but after a while it will be the same old thing with amnesia. I can see big nanny state areas want to push things beyond logic and want control of people on the micro level. Then there is the public reaction to this kind of thing. I can't imagine how some people would treat their neighbors if things got bad for real. The folks in the media... that is a lost cause. You might as well forget about them. Your Freedoms.... kiss them goodbye!

Originally Posted by thopkins22

He’s caught between a rock and hard place. The reality is that we’re almost all going to get it. Too many people educated in infectious diseases with nothing to gain have spelled that out really clearly.

Trump on the other hand doesn’t have many ways to play this AND effectively run for re-election.

He can say it’s no big deal don’t do anything weird... Snip

He was not downplaying, anything but. The "15 days to make a difference" concept was hammered and is a focused effort to flatten the curve.

His point was just that a national lockdown did not make sense yet, so it's the state's call. Supported CA and NY's call.

He does have to walk the line between providing hope and "we will get through this" Vs. getting people to change their behavior.

Yesterday's call found that balance.

There is some good news. New, faster test kits coming online. New mfgs making ventilators. Methods to cover ventilators used by anesthesiologists to what they need.

Myself, I think complacency is our biggest risk. In my state we have folks who went to church last Sunday who are now infected. (We chose not to) And the person who was the carrier has now died. I have friends grumbling they can't eat out, and are still ordering out.

Florida is starting to outpace GA, but on a per capita basis we are cruising along. Especially if you look at the two top counties. It's here and we have to deal with it.

Originally Posted by chuckman

I don't mean to lol, but lol. Yup. Me, too. And ABNAK and a few others.

I finally after 30 years worked myself into a relatively cushy Monday through Friday 40-hour work week, but all of our staff (clinical education) have screened into secondary jobs in the hospital, I will end up either in the emergency department, the ICU, or the command center (which gets my vote).

I have a feeling this weekend is my last "free" weekend.....

I was scheduled to work this weekend but I’m home on call today. I got overtime last week so I’m cool with it. I suppose less people out getting into MVCs, less falls, etc. This has been about the first stretch I’ve seen in a while without GSWs in a while.

We managed to do some rearranging to make a COVID only unit. So far, it feels the calm before the storm.


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Originally Posted by teufelhund1918

I'm starting to wonder what this country will look like once this big freak out is over and done with. There were suppose to be plans and contingencies in place for just this kind of scenario, but from what I have seen, it doesn't appear to be so. For the most part, gubbamint agencies appear to still be in a somewhat reactionary mode of operation. I'm not talking just the CDC, but all the gubbamint agencies, federal, state and local. Total score of F on the report card for all subjects. I can see some areas reacting with logical steps to put some things in place should this happen again, but after a while it will be the same old thing with amnesia. I can see big nanny state areas want to push things beyond logic and want control of people on the micro level. Then there is the public reaction to this kind of thing. I can't imagine how some people would treat their neighbors if things got bad for real. The folks in the media... that is a lost cause. You might as well forget about them. Your Freedoms.... kiss them goodbye!

I dont know how anyone can look at this mess and think that more govt is the answer. The only time we have had anything go right is when they have actually curbed the govt and streamlined out the bureaucracy. The CDC seems to have cocked up the testing from one end to another-

BUT

The biggest thing is that while this is a black swan event, we knew that this was a possibility if not an eventuality- if not natural than man made- and we are sitting on no plans and no resources. From the top of the national level to the hospitals admins they are ad hoc'ing this when it should have been a set game plan with ventilators stacked next to the govt cheese and the Ark of the Covenant. This is COVid19, not COVid1 for crips sakes.

And we aren't just a little un-prepared, we are un able to deal with fractions of a percent of our population being infected. A dedicated bio attack, a stadium with a chemical attack and we'd be handing out morphine ampules lie MJ gummies at a Bernie campaign event.

Govt is the answer? They cocked this up from one end to the other.

Originally Posted by flenna

Maybe I have overlooked it, but what is going on in Russia? Are they unaffected by this mess? I haven't seen anything in the news about them.

Germany. What is not happening in Germany? Look at the Johns Hopkins data.

Originally Posted by FromMyColdDeadHand

Germany. What is not happening in Germany? Look at the Johns Hopkins data.

The same thing that is not happening in South Korea, will be interesting to find out.

Originally Posted by mack7.62

The same thing that is not happening in South Korea, will be interesting to find out.

Younger populations, widespread testing which means that more than symptomatic hospital bound folks get tested. With the exception of age, which is far and away the biggest determining factor in whether or not you develop SARS, testing availability is the biggest difference.

Late last year, the government ran a simulation they called Crimson Contagion. It did not go well for the American people.

Originally Posted by MountainRaven

Late last year, the government ran a simulation they called Crimson Contagion. It did not go well for the American people.

Funny, that sounds just like 9/11 and all these Active Shooter situations.

At least people are not losing their sense of humor during all this.

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