It is easy to second guess what the chosen balance between accuracy and speed was. The main delay was a manufacturing problem, that seems likely a bit out of the control of the CDC. We should test the various tests against each other, then have a rational AAR to see what can be improved. AFTER ACTION means we should let it go for now and let them focus on treatments and reducing the spread.Originally Posted by FromMyColdDeadHand
Ventilators are not needed for all or even a majority of chem/bio/pandemic threats. The lack of PPE on hand is pretty inexcusable.
COVID-19 is the year 2019, not the 19th coronavirus pandemic.
SARS and MERS were much more deadly but also much less contagious, in that perspective the early response seems much more balanced than incompetent.
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The WHO kowtowing to China’s economic interests initially didn’t help matters any either.
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I've also wondered how much backlash there would have been if the Gov had jumped straight into full protective measures. I've been surprised to the amount of pushback from both sides of the aisle. I do think we could have moved faster, but "how much faster" is the question.
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No more orgies for you!
"Belgium Health minister has put a ban on all sexual activities of three people or more after a coronavirus party last week turned into a 500-participant orgy and ended with 380 cases of contamination"
Oh, and the "health minister" seems about the last person on the planet you'll wanne be getting health advice, but I digress:
https://worldnewsdailyreport.com/bel...-indoor-areas/- Will
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You should have posted a better warning with that link. I clicked on it and Jabba the Hut's ugly sister's face popped up. I almost dropped my tablet. Originally Posted by WillBrink
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Well, punch drunk Joe Biden was saying how foolish it was to ban travel to/from China when the President announced way back when this first started and the MSM agreed. A month later and the President is getting bashed for not doing enough early enough. Originally Posted by taekwondopreacher
Psalm 34:19
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It appears face masks shortages and other essential supplies are already running out in some locations:
https://www.vox.com/the-goods/2020/3...irus-donations
"By hoarding masks and respirators, civilians have contributed to the shortage of personal protective equipment (PPE) for health workers. (The US government is also partly to blame for overwhelming the health care system by not taking fast enough action to test citizens.)"
And:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN2170AV
https://www.nytimes.com/article/face...ronavirus.html
Not just n95 rated, but basic surgical masks. Anyone med pros here seeing any of that?
Feds to apparently have a stockpile, but red tape may be getting in the way per usual for rapid timely responses:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...asks-run-short
Currently, FB pages etc have sprung up to assist, and the GF is currently working to produce face masks from approved patterns and such. I'm being the helper with cutting patterns and chit but can't run a sowing machine for nadda. Goo place to start:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/millionmaskschallenge/
There's sites as coordinate with hospitals in your area to assist/support.
We must support our front line people anyway possible.
Mods: wondering if we should start a new pages dedicated strictly to support efforts, and coordination there.Last edited by WillBrink; 03-22-20 at 15:32.
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PPE Shortages
From the front lines, I can confirm that routine personal protective equipment (PPE) is in short supply across American's hospitals. Certainly it is well-known that we have very few advanced masks, such as N95s and even fewer powered air systems ("space suits"). But just the routine, run of the mill masks that your dental hygienist wears or the nurse in the clinic wears or the surgeon in the operating room wears are dwindling. There are efforts from across the globe in developing ways to stretch our supplies further, primarily through re-use of single use items. Lots of ideas are circulating about new strategies, including using diving masks and modified SCUBA equipment to get by. The editor of JAMA just asked for suggestions. Reminds me a little of the scene in Apollo 13 where the scientists brainstorm about solving the CO2 scrubbing problem. Stay safe out there!
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That much at least people can help with, and are mobilizing big time to do so per above, starting with FB page linked for those interested. Thanx for the real time update there.- Will
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Ohio governor Mike DeWine just issued an order closing all non-essential businesses in the state effective as of midnight tomorrow.
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