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Originally Posted by WillBrink

Unless i missed it, didn't see mentioned Rand Paul has Covid-19. He's my favorite GOP senator being of a Libertarian minded type and the only one I sent any $. Being medical doctor, his experience, write ups, etc will be interesting and useful.

https://www.businessinsider.com/memb...navirus-2020-3

I will also say, members of Congress and such getting sick, will motivate them to actually do something beyond run their overpaid pie holes about it.


We shall see...

Completely agree with you on Rand. Had a chance to meet him during his short-lived 2016 Presidential bid. Really enjoyed the experience. Had a chance to talk 4th Amendment with him. Thomas Massie and Rand Paul are two of the best when it comes to civil liberties. Hope Rand gets well soon. We'll need his Bill of Rights protectionism soon enough.

Originally Posted by Averageman

If you're using a C Pap, would it be wise to take a break from that for a while.
Warm moist air and all?

It likely depends on how much blow through you experience. Yes there’s a lot of humidity...which is in all honesty a good thing. The question is, do you wake up with a drier throat and mouth with or without the cpap?

Humidity is your friend here. Dried out and cracking mucus membranes is your enemy. If you’ve inhaled it you’ve inhaled it. You want your body’s first line of defense as healthy and intact as it can be. Viruses don’t replicate in the absence of host cells. The conditions are irrelevant to them. Google “lytic cycle.”

Or email your pcp and ask him/her.

Edit:I’m obviously not a doctor. Basing that on the biology as I understand it.

Originally Posted by Alex V

It isn't triage when those patients weren't going to be treated anyway (Italy).

ramairthree, is 100% right, we waste too much time and money on people who don't deserve it.

Freedom is dangerous, or did we forget that? I'd rather be free ("shelter in place" orders et al) and have a good solid economy to ensure my future success even if it means 500,000 people who would have normally died within the next 18 months die of COVID19.

Well since it's all about you....

Heard on the news tonight that here in the U.S. 40% of hospital admissions for COVID-19 are aged 22-50. Yes, that's less than half of the admissions, but it's 40% of the total. Now as more data comes out on the deceased we will see how many non-old fvcks make up the tally.

Oh for both you and ramairthree: one of the perks of living in a FREE society, and it's subsequent higher standard of living, is excellent healthcare in abundance. Don't like how it's doled out? Go somewhere else both free and prosperous and see how that works out for you. Oh wait, can't find anyplace that meets those criteria? Hmmm.....

One of my best friends is a retired SF SgtMaj. He was a stud "back in the day". He's 67yo now and not as much of a stud. Not a smoker or anything else, just an old guy (he'd motherfvck me for even saying that). Now according to some of the criteria I see floated around on here, his age alone puts him in the "too bad so sad" category. Maybe I shouldn't say this, maybe the snifter of bourbon is setting in, but karma just might dictate that this COVID shit hits REAL close to you individuals making new rules about who gets care. Not every g-damn "old" person is morbidly obese, a drug addict, diabetic, lived a shitty life, etc. So they're 70 and carry a few extra pounds ('cause you guys are all gonna be Jack LaLane studs as you get older right?), let's just say fvck them. They had their life.....

My brother's met at a call, one a Deputy Sheriff, the other a Fire Chief.
Fight over toilet paper.
Multiple contusions and a gun drawn.

Originally Posted by FromMyColdDeadHand

Why would this be an issue at home? I have a buddy in a home office that is constantly Purelling, and I was like ‘Why’, you’re at home and haven’t left the house. I understand that it isn’t bad to do, but it’s a virus, not a bogey man.

No I said at home is fine. I would NOT take my CPAP to a hospital because it sucks in air to operate. Your at-home clean air is GTG.

Originally Posted by ramairthree

Yeah, you can’t have any medical problems if you never went to a doctor and got told you have medical problems.

But I have reached the age where there are surprises even with annual physicals.

I know two tall skinny, guys that ran marathons. And one fit, regular build that worked out a lot. And one hardcore Crossfit warrior build. All in their 50s with healthy lifestyles.

One felt like crap after a run. He went to the ED and left a couple of days later with a stent. One started feeling feeling like crap during a marathon. They finished it really slow. They went to their doc the next day and were in AFIB. No stent, but meds and blood thinners. The regular fit guy finished a week long hiking/camping trip. Came home feeling like crap. He got a stent. The last guy dropped dead on a run.

Another guy got guilted into an over 50 screening colonoscopy. No symptoms. Surgery for colon cancer.

Another guy had a high PSA on his physical. Bad, horrible prostate cancer in his 40s.

Another guy in his 30s thought he had the “crud” and went to see his PA. He ordered a couple labs and a chest X-RAY. Leukemic crisis.

All of the above had annual physicals, no high blood pressure, no obesity, non smokers, non alcoholics, no diabetes, and exercised.

They had “no medical problems.”

Nope, we shouldn't spend a dime on 'em. Fvck 'em. Too bad the life-roulette wheel screwed you, here's some pills, go home and die.

Originally Posted by Life's a Hillary

Yeah but WND....

So far this looks like it has some promise but in the study they’ve done so far it hasn’t exactly been shown to be a miracle drug for this. However, people who need those drugs for other conditions they previously had now can’t get them due to a shortage. If a bigger study can show its effectiveness then let’s ramp up production as fast as possible, I remain skeptical.

How about if I'm diagnosed with COVID-19 that I can request to be given Plaquenil (the malaria drug)? Screw the FDA. Trump said he believed in a "right to try".

Originally Posted by Life's a Hillary

Yeah but WND....

So far this looks like it has some promise but in the study they’ve done so far it hasn’t exactly been shown to be a miracle drug for this. However, people who need those drugs for other conditions they previously had now can’t get them due to a shortage. If a bigger study can show its effectiveness then let’s ramp up production as fast as possible, I remain skeptical.

Has there been any studies published using that drug with C19? Far as I know, it's call case study and anecdotal at best right now.

Originally Posted by jpmuscle

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I'm not connecting the dots on that pic and what I posted. Can you clarify?

Originally Posted by joeyjoe

Completely agree with you on Rand. Had a chance to meet him during his short-lived 2016 Presidential bid. Really enjoyed the experience. Had a chance to talk 4th Amendment with him. Thomas Massie and Rand Paul are two of the best when it comes to civil liberties. Hope Rand gets well soon. We'll need his Bill of Rights protectionism soon enough.

Only one from the last GOP line up I genuinely like.

Originally Posted by ABNAK

Well since it's all about you....

Heard on the news tonight that here in the U.S. 40% of hospital admissions for COVID-19 are aged 22-50. Yes, that's less than half of the admissions, but it's 40% of the total. Now as more data comes out on the deceased we will see how many non-old fvcks make up the tally.

Oh for both you and ramairthree: one of the perks of living in a FREE society, and it's subsequent higher standard of living, is excellent healthcare in abundance. Don't like how it's doled out? Go somewhere else both free and prosperous and see how that works out for you. Oh wait, can't find anyplace that meets those criteria? Hmmm.....

One of my best friends is a retired SF SgtMaj. He was a stud "back in the day". He's 67yo now and not as much of a stud. Not a smoker or anything else, just an old guy (he'd motherfvck me for even saying that). Now according to some of the criteria I see floated around on here, his age alone puts him in the "too bad so sad" category. Maybe I shouldn't say this, maybe the snifter of bourbon is setting in, but karma just might dictate that this COVID shit hits REAL close to you individuals making new rules about who gets care. Not every g-damn "old" person is morbidly obese, a drug addict, diabetic, lived a shitty life, etc. So they're 70 and carry a few extra pounds ('cause you guys are all gonna be Jack LaLane studs as you get older right?), let's just say fvck them. They had their life.....

Again,
I’m not making any rules.

After the brandy wears off,
Look for hints in the examples given.

You wish death on me and those I know over things other westernized, Christian, countries with free education and socialized medicine do?
When your sober and less scared rethink that.

I don’t seem to be the only one with the opinion the world is losing its mind and the majority of the deaths were people, regardless of age, that were going to die anyway. And that the extreme measures will have far worse, long standing impacts to far more people.

https://swprs.org/a-swiss-doctor-on-covid-19/

Originally Posted by ramairthree

Again,
I’m not making any rules.

After the brandy wears off,
Look for hints in the examples given.

You wish death on me and those I know over things other westernized, Christian, countries with free education and socialized medicine do?
When your sober and less scared rethink that.

I don’t seem to be the only one with the opinion the world is losing its mind and the majority of the deaths were people, regardless of age, that were going to die anyway. And that the extreme measures will have far worse, long standing impacts to far more people.

https://swprs.org/a-swiss-doctor-on-covid-19/

Bourbon, not brandy. A snifter with ice, not a Solo-Cup full. Faculties functioning, tongue-via-finger loosened though. No apologies.

Also, not skeered. My wife and I both work in a hospital so it is nearly a foregone conclusion that one of us will be positive, and then of course so will the other. I'm not afraid of things I can't control, but I'm not thrilled with the prospect either. I sure as hell am not looking forward to getting it.

I never said I wished death upon anyone, so don't get bent about it. Wishing death on someone is bad juju. I said that it seems sometimes in life when we are most adamant and sure about something there comes a reminder that humbles us. It's happened to me, that's why I mentioned it. I do NOT hope it happens to you or Alex, just saying be careful when yelling from the mountaintops......something might hear you.

I do not at all disagree that the treatment could be worse than the cure. It will kill our economy if it goes on for too long.