(COVID/ETC CONTENT HERE) China Locks Down 11 Million in Wuhan,

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  1. chuckman said:
    Quote Originally Posted by teufelhund1918 View Post
    .....and now it was reported that the hantavirus reared it's ugly head in China too. They tested about 40 people around the fella that had it, but I guess results are still pending... if you can believe them. It's not suppose to transmit from human to human, but that is probably just a matter of time too.
    That crops up every year or so, as does yersinia pestis (plague). If either of those gets weaponized, that could be a problem.... but so far those cases gets isolated and get nailed down, quickly. South America has had issues with hantavirus in the last few years; meanwhile, plague hits the American southwest from time to time with a low 'n'.
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    Grand58742 said:
    I'm to understand the Chinese version of Hantavirus is more of a hemorrhagic fever type while Western Hanta is more pulmonary.

    Not that it makes much of a difference in the great scheme of things. But the treatments are wildly different to my understanding.

    Biggest take away from this? Stop eating shit you probably shouldn't.
    Experience is a cruel teacher, gives the exam first and then the lesson.
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    teufelhund1918 said:
    Quote Originally Posted by chuckman View Post
    That crops up every year or so, as does yersinia pestis (plague). If either of those gets weaponized, that could be a problem.... but so far those cases gets isolated and get nailed down, quickly. South America has had issues with hantavirus in the last few years; meanwhile, plague hits the American southwest from time to time with a low 'n'.
    I remember the outbreak they had a few years ago among the Native American population. Ended up being caused by dried up rat droppings in the area they were conducting their tribal ceremonies. They would dance and stir it up into the air, then breath it in. It took a while to figure it out, but it cost quite a few lives in the mean time.
  4. chuckman said:
    Quote Originally Posted by Grand58742 View Post
    I'm to understand the Chinese version of Hantavirus is more of a hemorrhagic fever type while Western Hanta is more pulmonary.

    Not that it makes much of a difference in the great scheme of things. But the treatments are wildly different to my understanding.

    Biggest take away from this? Stop eating shit you probably shouldn't.
    Yes; plague is the same way. More than just not eating shit you shouldn't (always good advice), don't live in squalor. Get rid of rodents.
  5. Heavyweight said:
    Good morning guys.....I don’t post a lot. Never have. But this is something I’ve got some experience with. I’m seeing lots of comparisons to flu on this thread and I just want to set the record straight from my perspective.

    I’m a healthcare worker in the North Texas area and am sitting at home having tested positive for COVID19
    last Friday. I feel like hammered shit but my lung function is still very good. I’m moving air at a 97% saturation rate. I’m 50 years old and will probably be just fine. What I really want to talk about is what I’m seeing in my hospital and share some of my personal observations as to why this is affecting us so differently from the flu.

    I work for a very large healthcare system. One major difference between COVID19 and seasonal flu is timing. Seasonal flu hits us over 6 months. Sure we get hit harder over a couple of months but nothing like what we are seeing now. As I type this almost all of my ICU beds are full. Not just from Coronavirus but heart attacks, strokes, post-op complications, etc. What’s happened that is unique is that all my capacity has been eaten up almost immediately and we are getting overwhelmed.

    COVID19 is going to make a lot more people sick. The current numbers in the press are not accurate. We are estimating that at least 40% of the population in the US will get it. And that’s conservative. Flu affects about 8% annually because we have vaccines and because gestation is so much shorter. If you don’t believe my number think about it. You can go two weeks with Coronavirus before showing symptoms. One person infecting just two people will increase exponentially over 30 days growing to over 4,000 infected from one person.

    COVID19 is not just affecting the old. Before I got sick I was seeing numerous adolescent and young adult cases. Granted some were compromised but many weren’t and were very ill needing hospitalization. I can’t give you percentages but it was significant. The truth is we don’t know how all the stats are going to shake out in the end. Particularly around mortality.

    There are a host of other reasons why COVID19 is so different. Not the least of which is that nobody wants to get sick and pass this on to Nanna and PopPop....or their wife whose in chemo for breast cancer. Also, we’ve never seen such a rapid global pathogen spread. If I remember my history the Asian Flu pandemic in 1957 took months to reach the US and we had a vaccine developed before it hit us.

    I’m starting to ramble and my head is pounding so I’m going to wrap up. No, you are probably not going to die if you wind up with COVID19. Do I think the public panic and media fear monger are overblown.....yes. But that’s no reason not to take it seriously. Please don’t downplay the risk or take unnecessary chances. Don’t play Russian roulette with your health.

    Stay safe

    Heavyweight
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    WillBrink said:
    So does this mean we can blame this guy when someone injected a million IUs of D and dies? Anyway...

    Former CDC Chief Dr. Tom Frieden: Coronavirus infection risk may be reduced by Vitamin D

    "Higher COVID-19 mortality rates among older people and those with chronic conditions suggest that a weakened immune system contributes to poor outcomes. There are many crackpot claims about miracle cures floating around, but the science supports the possibility – although not the proof – that Vitamin D may strengthen the immune system, particularly of people whose Vitamin D levels are low.

    Vitamin D supplementation reduces the risk of respiratory infection, regulates cytokine production and can limit the risk of other viruses such as influenza. A respiratory infection can result in cytokine storms – a vicious cycle in which our inflammatory cells damage organs throughout the body – which increase mortality for those with COVID-19. Adequate Vitamin D may potentially provide some modest protection for vulnerable populations."

    Cont:

    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/form...ith-vitamin-d?
    - Will

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    WillBrink said:
    Interesting and hopefully true:

    "Epidemiologist Neil Ferguson, who created the highly-cited Imperial College London coronavirus model, which has been cited by organizations like The New York Times and has been instrumental in governmental policy decision-making, offered a massive revision to his model on Wednesday.

    Ferguson’s model projected 2.2 million dead people in the United States and 500,000 in the U.K. from COVID-19 if no action were taken to slow the virus and blunt its curve.

    However, after just one day of ordered lockdowns in the U.K., Ferguson has changed his tune, revealing that far more people likely have the virus than his team figured. Now, the epidemiologist predicts, hospitals will be just fine taking on COVID-19 patients and estimates 20,000 or far fewer people will die from the virus itself or from its agitation of other ailments.

    Ferguson thus dropped his prediction from 500,000 dead to 20,000."


    https://www.dailywire.com/news/epide...revises-model?
    - Will

    General Performance/Fitness Advice for all

    www.BrinkZone.com


    “Those who do not view armed self defense as a basic human right, ignore the mass graves of those who died on their knees at the hands of tyrants.”
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    VARIABLE9 said:
    Quote Originally Posted by Heavyweight View Post
    Good morning guys.....I don’t post a lot. Never have. But this is something I’ve got some experience with. I’m seeing lots of comparisons to flu on this thread and I just want to set the record straight from my perspective.

    I’m a healthcare worker in the North Texas area and am sitting at home having tested positive for COVID19
    last Friday. I feel like hammered shit but my lung function is still very good. I’m moving air at a 97% saturation rate. I’m 50 years old and will probably be just fine. What I really want to talk about is what I’m seeing in my hospital and share some of my personal observations as to why this is affecting us so differently from the flu.

    I work for a very large healthcare system. One major difference between COVID19 and seasonal flu is timing. Seasonal flu hits us over 6 months. Sure we get hit harder over a couple of months but nothing like what we are seeing now. As I type this almost all of my ICU beds are full. Not just from Coronavirus but heart attacks, strokes, post-op complications, etc. What’s happened that is unique is that all my capacity has been eaten up almost immediately and we are getting overwhelmed.

    COVID19 is going to make a lot more people sick. The current numbers in the press are not accurate. We are estimating that at least 40% of the population in the US will get it. And that’s conservative. Flu affects about 8% annually because we have vaccines and because gestation is so much shorter. If you don’t believe my number think about it. You can go two weeks with Coronavirus before showing symptoms. One person infecting just two people will increase exponentially over 30 days growing to over 4,000 infected from one person.

    COVID19 is not just affecting the old. Before I got sick I was seeing numerous adolescent and young adult cases. Granted some were compromised but many weren’t and were very ill needing hospitalization. I can’t give you percentages but it was significant. The truth is we don’t know how all the stats are going to shake out in the end. Particularly around mortality.

    There are a host of other reasons why COVID19 is so different. Not the least of which is that nobody wants to get sick and pass this on to Nanna and PopPop....or their wife whose in chemo for breast cancer. Also, we’ve never seen such a rapid global pathogen spread. If I remember my history the Asian Flu pandemic in 1957 took months to reach the US and we had a vaccine developed before it hit us.

    I’m starting to ramble and my head is pounding so I’m going to wrap up. No, you are probably not going to die if you wind up with COVID19. Do I think the public panic and media fear monger are overblown.....yes. But that’s no reason not to take it seriously. Please don’t downplay the risk or take unnecessary chances. Don’t play Russian roulette with your health.

    Stay safe

    Heavyweight
    Thank you for your post and wish you a quick recovery!
  9. chuckman said:
    Quote Originally Posted by Heavyweight View Post
    Good morning guys.....I don’t post a lot. Never have. But this is something I’ve got some experience with. I’m seeing lots of comparisons to flu on this thread and I just want to set the record straight from my perspective.

    I’m a healthcare worker in the North Texas area and am sitting at home having tested positive for COVID19
    last Friday. I feel like hammered shit but my lung function is still very good. I’m moving air at a 97% saturation rate. I’m 50 years old and will probably be just fine. What I really want to talk about is what I’m seeing in my hospital and share some of my personal observations as to why this is affecting us so differently from the flu.

    I work for a very large healthcare system. One major difference between COVID19 and seasonal flu is timing. Seasonal flu hits us over 6 months. Sure we get hit harder over a couple of months but nothing like what we are seeing now. As I type this almost all of my ICU beds are full. Not just from Coronavirus but heart attacks, strokes, post-op complications, etc. What’s happened that is unique is that all my capacity has been eaten up almost immediately and we are getting overwhelmed.

    COVID19 is going to make a lot more people sick. The current numbers in the press are not accurate. We are estimating that at least 40% of the population in the US will get it. And that’s conservative. Flu affects about 8% annually because we have vaccines and because gestation is so much shorter. If you don’t believe my number think about it. You can go two weeks with Coronavirus before showing symptoms. One person infecting just two people will increase exponentially over 30 days growing to over 4,000 infected from one person.

    COVID19 is not just affecting the old. Before I got sick I was seeing numerous adolescent and young adult cases. Granted some were compromised but many weren’t and were very ill needing hospitalization. I can’t give you percentages but it was significant. The truth is we don’t know how all the stats are going to shake out in the end. Particularly around mortality.

    There are a host of other reasons why COVID19 is so different. Not the least of which is that nobody wants to get sick and pass this on to Nanna and PopPop....or their wife whose in chemo for breast cancer. Also, we’ve never seen such a rapid global pathogen spread. If I remember my history the Asian Flu pandemic in 1957 took months to reach the US and we had a vaccine developed before it hit us.

    I’m starting to ramble and my head is pounding so I’m going to wrap up. No, you are probably not going to die if you wind up with COVID19. Do I think the public panic and media fear monger are overblown.....yes. But that’s no reason not to take it seriously. Please don’t downplay the risk or take unnecessary chances. Don’t play Russian roulette with your health.

    Stay safe

    Heavyweight
    Thanks and keep posting (as you can). Be well.
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    jmp45 said:
    Quote Originally Posted by Heavyweight View Post
    Good morning guys.....I don’t post a lot. Never have. But this is something I’ve got some experience with. I’m seeing lots of comparisons to flu on this thread and I just want to set the record straight from my perspective.

    I’m a healthcare worker in the North Texas area and am sitting at home having tested positive for COVID19
    last Friday. I feel like hammered shit but my lung function is still very good. I’m moving air at a 97% saturation rate. I’m 50 years old and will probably be just fine. What I really want to talk about is what I’m seeing in my hospital and share some of my personal observations as to why this is affecting us so differently from the flu.

    I work for a very large healthcare system. One major difference between COVID19 and seasonal flu is timing. Seasonal flu hits us over 6 months. Sure we get hit harder over a couple of months but nothing like what we are seeing now. As I type this almost all of my ICU beds are full. Not just from Coronavirus but heart attacks, strokes, post-op complications, etc. What’s happened that is unique is that all my capacity has been eaten up almost immediately and we are getting overwhelmed.

    COVID19 is going to make a lot more people sick. The current numbers in the press are not accurate. We are estimating that at least 40% of the population in the US will get it. And that’s conservative. Flu affects about 8% annually because we have vaccines and because gestation is so much shorter. If you don’t believe my number think about it. You can go two weeks with Coronavirus before showing symptoms. One person infecting just two people will increase exponentially over 30 days growing to over 4,000 infected from one person.

    COVID19 is not just affecting the old. Before I got sick I was seeing numerous adolescent and young adult cases. Granted some were compromised but many weren’t and were very ill needing hospitalization. I can’t give you percentages but it was significant. The truth is we don’t know how all the stats are going to shake out in the end. Particularly around mortality.

    There are a host of other reasons why COVID19 is so different. Not the least of which is that nobody wants to get sick and pass this on to Nanna and PopPop....or their wife whose in chemo for breast cancer. Also, we’ve never seen such a rapid global pathogen spread. If I remember my history the Asian Flu pandemic in 1957 took months to reach the US and we had a vaccine developed before it hit us.

    I’m starting to ramble and my head is pounding so I’m going to wrap up. No, you are probably not going to die if you wind up with COVID19. Do I think the public panic and media fear monger are overblown.....yes. But that’s no reason not to take it seriously. Please don’t downplay the risk or take unnecessary chances. Don’t play Russian roulette with your health.

    Stay safe

    Heavyweight
    Yes, we hope for a rapid full recovery for you and all others wading thru this.