(COVID/ETC CONTENT HERE) China Locks Down 11 Million in Wuhan,

Originally Posted by utahjeepr

Now wait a minute, I was in the low 80s (primary care and at special class). I was not at deaths door or anything. My primary gave me some kind of misty stuff to breathe gave me a bottle of O2 and called ahead to the tent city. I was holding 92-94 at 3 liters per minute(?). They talked a good game about keeping me but let me roll out as long as I was doing home O2. I don't have a monitor, my AO is sold out. I am currently running at a 2 kind of part time. I only have issues when I have a deep clearing cough. Obviously you guys are WAY more knowledgeable than I, your numbers are just a lot higher than my personal experience. ?

I get you on the rib thing though. I have experienced broken ribs and I would have sworn that I broke one coughing. But, they took x-rays of my lungs and I very highly doubt they would have missed that.

This has been the hardest hitting, fastest moving who flung goo that I have ever had. I mean from a "tickle cough" to 104+ hallucinagenic fever (but I am pretty sure the smurf astronauts were real) in about 18-20 hours with onset of pneumonia (bronchial with one lower lobe ?) First time primary sent me to ER. Within another 24 hours fever broken, coughing like I inhaled a swarm of freaking locusts, and apparently a bit under inflated. Second trip to ER from primary. All this and I have a positive type A, inconclusive / negative for covid (the only reason they are even talking about the covid is due to the speed and intensity, I have no reason to believe that I have/had the actual boogeybug. ). However through all of that, I never had any sense from myself or the docs that I had a really serious, gonna need some serious remedial training on staying alive, type of problem.

So be careful out there. Apparently seasonal flu this year can equate with a south side of Chicago mugging. If this is getting of easy I feel for you that get it bad.

There is no way your oxygen saturation was in the low 80s. You’d have been unconscious. I think maybe you are confusing oxygen sat with ABG levels. ABG is your arterial blood gas....and 80 mmHG is a little on the low end of the scale but still acceptable.

Originally Posted by Heavyweight

There is no way your oxygen saturation was in the low 80s. You’d have been unconscious. I think maybe you are confusing oxygen sat with ABG levels. ABG is your arterial blood gas....and 80 mmHG is a little on the low end of the scale but still acceptable.

What is the highest saturation level you've seen? Reason I ask is I could have sworn I saw 102 on the monitor when my daughter was in the ER.

Originally Posted by Heavyweight

There is no way your oxygen saturation was in the low 80s. You’d have been unconscious. I think maybe you are confusing oxygen sat with ABG levels. ABG is your arterial blood gas....and 80 mmHG is a little on the low end of the scale but still acceptable.

Can't put up an argument, you are the pro. But 82-84 saturation is what I recall, and up 10 points on O2. Just going by the recall of a layman. I am a former Marine though, I believe studies have shown we are a bit less dependent on Oxygen seeing as how our brains move at a slower pace.

* talking to wife, she says I am remembering the low troughs that got everyone exited, she recalls 86-88 being about the "norm". Not changing my story per se, but that is what she has to say. You guys are still the real authorities though so... I defer to you expertise. *

Originally Posted by utahjeepr

Basically this.

Doesn't it seem like there is some "apocalyptic, bound to turn into a super deadly pandemic " version of the Kung flu coming out of China every few years. Which invariably turns into a nothingburger as soon as something bright and shiny pops up on the radar.

ETA, of course some A'hole could have been saying the same thing about the bubonic plague (also from China) around 1346.

Just thought I would point out the irony of this. Karma sucks, I guess I asked for it.

I also gotta find another way to keep myself occupied, I'm gonna wear out my welcome.

Originally Posted by 26 Inf

What is the highest saturation level you've seen? Reason I ask is I could have sworn I saw 102 on the monitor when my daughter was in the ER.

Oxygen saturation can absolutely go over 100 percent. I see it all the time.

Originally Posted by 26 Inf

What is the highest saturation level you've seen? Reason I ask is I could have sworn I saw 102 on the monitor when my daughter was in the ER.

For what it's worth, SpO2 ("sats") can not go above 100%; it's basically "what percent of the available seats have a passenger" with the seats being the parts of our blood that can transport oxygen (hemoglobin) and the passengers being a molecule (oxygen in the sense of "satting"- however, for the sake of being accurate, it can be other molecules like CO).

You may fill all of the seats on the bus (100% saturated), but that doesn't mean you don't have extra passengers standing and roaming around wherever they want. This is why target SpO2 is traditionally 93-99%; as we want to avoid oxidative stress from excess O2 (once we hit 100%, there's no telling how much excess there is. Believe it or not; it can actually be bad too have too much oxygen).

Originally Posted by Heavyweight

Oxygen saturation can absolutely go over 100 percent. I see it all the time.

SpO2 or pulling ABGs?

Interesting; shooting a PM your way.

Originally Posted by GTF425

SpO2 or pulling ABGs?

Interesting; shooting a PM your way.

He's gotta be talking about PaO2, not Sp02.

Originally Posted by ABNAK

He's gotta be talking about PaO2, not Sp02.

Yep...I meant ABG. I was just talking about it with Utahjeepr. I’ve been on here too long. I’m gonna sign off for a bit.

Originally Posted by Heavyweight

Yep...I meant ABG. I was just talking about it with Utahjeepr. I’ve been on here too long. I’m gonna sign off for a bit.

Go get some well deserved rest, boss. Hoping for a quick and full recovery for you.

Another wrinkle: France and the apparent politics of the malaria drug (hydroxchlorquine) treatment:

https://asiatimes.com/2020/03/why-fr...ed-virus-cure/