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    Quote Originally Posted by FromMyColdDeadHand View Post


    Wasn't this the new hotness a few years ago? Strike One pistol.
    Yes, that's what I was thinking of! Thanx.
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    Strike One was a slight change of existing handguns. Where I view the Alien as a totally new approach, due to the way they have put existing technology together.

    Does the Alien amount to a revolution in handguns ?

    No. I don't think a revolution is possible until the type of projectile has under gone a revolution.

    Is the Alien an evolution enough that once it has been tested a bit in the market place and the price comes down, that I will buy one ? You bet. Will they survive that long? Who knows.

    But I like what I see.

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    The Strike One is also still around, unlike the Hudson H9. The Hudson H9 was the more mechanically novel of the two.

    But both the Strike One and the Hudson H9 were pretty well hyped by knowledgeable people before they showed up on the market. I actually know a local firearms instructor who recently got an Archon B (the pistol that was the Strike One) and really likes it.

    The key difference being, I think, that the Hudson and the Strike One/Archon B are priced at a level to be accessible to the average shooter (if they save a couple extra pennies). The Alien is priced more like a high end semi-custom 1911/2011 or a Korth revolver. Which don't necessarily sell well to guys wanting hard-use pistols, but may sell well to those who "appreciate" the art of a well-made firearm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MountainRaven View Post
    The Strike One is also still around, unlike the Hudson H9. The Hudson H9 was the more mechanically novel of the two.

    But both the Strike One and the Hudson H9 were pretty well hyped by knowledgeable people before they showed up on the market. I actually know a local firearms instructor who recently got an Archon B (the pistol that was the Strike One) and really likes it.

    The key difference being, I think, that the Hudson and the Strike One/Archon B are priced at a level to be accessible to the average shooter (if they save a couple extra pennies). The Alien is priced more like a high end semi-custom 1911/2011 or a Korth revolver. Which don't necessarily sell well to guys wanting hard-use pistols, but may sell well to those who "appreciate" the art of a well-made firearm.
    True, but the problem being for the Alien, there is nothing "custom" about the look of the gun unlike the high end 1911's and Korth's which ooze custom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrenaline_6 View Post
    True, but the problem being for the Alien, there is nothing "custom" about the look of the gun unlike the high end 1911's and Korth's which ooze custom.
    I don't think it is a problem for them. They are not trying to capitalize on the look. They are playing an "innovation translating into a performance advantage" card. They don't need to improve the looks. They need to show objective performance advantage and make it available to a broad enough segment who cares. The only way I see that happen is them making 2000 units theoretically available, convincing USPSA to allow top rail mounting in carry optics, and sponsoring a smartly chosen USPSA shooting team, even if it takes giving away 20-30 guns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YVK View Post
    I don't think it is a problem for them. They are not trying to capitalize on the look. They are playing an "innovation translating into a performance advantage" card. They don't need to improve the looks. They need to show objective performance advantage and make it available to a broad enough segment who cares. The only way I see that happen is them making 2000 units theoretically available, convincing USPSA to allow top rail mounting in carry optics, and sponsoring a smartly chosen USPSA shooting team, even if it takes giving away 20-30 guns.
    I guess we will definitely find out.

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