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    A post from a company that does a lot of ACR stuff.

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    January 24 at 7:53 PM ·
    I wanted to clear up a few rumors from Shot Show that was being spread around about the Acr. I wasn’t able to report on here too much this week because I was out doing desert testing while trying to get through meetups with my awesome customers when I could get a chance. This info is directly from current employees of Remington as well.

    Right now they are restructuring the entire company. This news hit them within the last couple months. 2 months is no time in the gun industry. Especially when you consider some 3D prints take 2-3 days alone to do. It’s the same with structuring as well. Nothing is concrete now.

    Now as far as the Acr is concerned. They are not producing them in the same numbers or same basis as before. They want to focus on the product lines that are backlogged first. These product lines are more along the shotgun or hunting market. Not so much on the modern rifle market (Ar/Acr).

    From what I gathered, if you were a larger company or had enough money you can still order Acrs to your build specifications. The downside is that it would have to be done in a minimum quantity. I do not know the quantity minimums whatsoever and I won’t even guess on them.

    With all of that being said, I was here years before anyone knew I was building Acr’s and I don’t plan on going anywhere. I plan on holding the platform up for as long as humanly possible. I built my company to help the Acr owners and I won’t be abandoning ship just because it looks stormy on the horizon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1168 View Post
    Are there any known-good Bushy or DPMS parts I should be trying to snag for spares?

    Btw, sorry about your coffee maker, bro. Hopefully you have that sorted by now.
    Gracias. Fortunately, I have a spare espresso machine I was able to press into service. Tragedy was narrowly averted.

    Good question about the spare parts. I'd be curious about some of the springs, buffers, etc. Those were likely outsourced. Some of the trigger components might be usable as well.

    I know for a while, Bushmaster's magazines were actually made for them by NHMTG. I ordered about 40 one time, and they all had NHMTG floorplates.

    I shall make discreet inquiries.

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    I went to the Templar Precision website and was very impressed. They can take an AR barrel and convert it to run with the ACR. Cost doesn’t run any higher than the Bushmaster barrel kits. They are also working to release a lightweight lower. I’m very happy to know there will be support in place for the ACR even if it gets discontinued by Remington. Thanks for that info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prepare View Post
    If its true any idea why?
    Colt quit selling AR's on the commercial market.
    I believe FN is no longer selling on the market either.
    Not exactly true.

    Colt is prioritizing production of LE and MIL orders. Given as how pretty much everyone who wanted a 6920 since 2004 probably has one, that is more of a marketing decision. If they started neutering their product line with no bayos, flash hiders or collapsible stocks like they did in the early 90s THEN it would actually be something.

    I just checked FN is still producing their M4 hobby rifle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    Not exactly true.

    Colt is prioritizing production of LE and MIL orders. Given as how pretty much everyone who wanted a 6920 since 2004 probably has one, that is more of a marketing decision. If they started neutering their product line with no bayos, flash hiders or collapsible stocks like they did in the early 90s THEN it would actually be something.

    I just checked FN is still producing their M4 hobby rifle.
    But none are available and haven't been for quite some time. FN also closed their pro shop at their manufacturing facility in SC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by prepare View Post
    But none are available and haven't been for quite some time. FN also closed their pro shop at their manufacturing facility in SC.
    The important thing is they haven't said "no civie sales" as a policy. They haven't discontinued the civilian line. Go to gunbroker and google Colt 6920 and you will see hundreds for about $10 above dealer price. The market is saturated, Colt would be idiotic to keep manufacturing for a market that is full, especially when the demand right now is military and LE sales. They are also trying to get people to pay those premium prices for their Vietnam reissue rifles.

    Now granted, Colt has a history. They made recommendations to Congress that led to the Clinton AW ban. Even with the sunset there was a period of time when they were asking for LE letterheads to order a Colt LE rifle. So yeah, we need to stay on top of this kind of shit. But sometimes it isn't really there.

    Colt is probably also trying to let those surplus rifles get snapped up because next year is an election year and a panic buy is just what happens every pre election. Now come this summer if Colt is still saying yeah, no civie sales...then you have something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    The important thing is they haven't said "no civie sales" as a policy. They haven't discontinued the civilian line. Go to gunbroker and google Colt 6920 and you will see hundreds for about $10 above dealer price. The market is saturated, Colt would be idiotic to keep manufacturing for a market that is full, especially when the demand right now is military and LE sales. They are also trying to get people to pay those premium prices for their Vietnam reissue rifles.

    Now granted, Colt has a history. They made recommendations to Congress that led to the Clinton AW ban. Even with the sunset there was a period of time when they were asking for LE letterheads to order a Colt LE rifle. So yeah, we need to stay on top of this kind of shit. But sometimes it isn't really there.

    Colt is probably also trying to let those surplus rifles get snapped up because next year is an election year and a panic buy is just what happens every pre election. Now come this summer if Colt is still saying yeah, no civie sales...then you have something.
    Perhaps thats all there is to it but given the current anti gun initiatives underway I suspect theres something else goin on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by prepare View Post
    Perhaps thats all there is to it but given the current anti gun initiatives underway I suspect theres something else goin on.
    I keep wondering how long it will be before you can't get a .gov contract unless you stop selling to civilians.
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    As of 5 minutes ago there were plenty of ACR rifles on the shelves.

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    Another and I think related trend I see I from AR companies is introducing non semi auto firearms. Like Daniel Defense and Sig.

    Do they see the writing on the wall, do they think a ban on semi auto rifles is in the future?

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