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    First Responder Training Beyond What Red Cross Offers

    Not looking to become an EMT or Paramedic, but I was wondering if the professionals here could give some input as to what kind of training might be available for first responders that topics beyond what Red Cross offers in their first responder training? Things like what to do for sucking chest wounds, venting a chest, traumatic wounds, GSWs, etc. Looking for something along the lines of actual classes, not the Joe Blo on YouTube stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by teufelhund1918 View Post
    Not looking to become an EMT or Paramedic, but I was wondering if the professionals here could give some input as to what kind of training might be available for first responders that topics beyond what Red Cross offers in their first responder training? Things like what to do for sucking chest wounds, venting a chest, traumatic wounds, GSWs, etc. Looking for something along the lines of actual classes, not the Joe Blo on YouTube stuff.
    I continue to be amazed at the fascination with sucking chest wounds

    I wouldn't worry about those particular injuries. A first responder has no business doing anything with those injuries other than slapping a bandage on, maybe applying pressure to stop obvious bleeding, and calling an ambulance. Assessing and treating injuriy of that severity is well beyond the training and education of a first responder. If you think there it is likely you'll ever have to deal with that stuff, become a Paramedic. Otherwise, leave it alone. Basic first aid is all you need.

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    Red Cross training is not what it used to be 20+ yrs ago.
    Now they rely a lot on computer based training and are more concerned with profit than training. Sad
    I was very disappointed when I tried to take a CPR class a few yrs ago.


    Here is two off the top of my head;

    Sig offers a class called Bullets & Bandages. Its 3 days long and it is on my list to take.
    https://www.sigsaueracademy.com/prod...and-bandages-i

    Dark Angel also offers one.
    https://darkangelmedical.com/training/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hmac View Post
    I continue to be amazed at the fascination with sucking chest wounds

    I wouldn't worry about those particular injuries. A first responder has no business doing anything with those injuries other than slapping a bandage on, maybe applying pressure to stop obvious bleeding, and calling an ambulance. Assessing and treating injuriy of that severity is well beyond the training and education of a first responder. If you think there it is likely you'll ever have to deal with that stuff, become a Paramedic. Otherwise, leave it alone. Basic first aid is all you need.
    Just thinking ahead with all this stuff going on here in Va. Even beyond that, with all the shootings going on anymore, I think it is a good idea to have some knowledge of how to treat traumatic injuries like GSWs to be able to help in a meaningful way if needed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fedupflyer View Post
    Red Cross training is not what it used to be 20+ yrs ago.
    Now they rely a lot on computer based training and are more concerned with profit than training. Sad
    I was very disappointed when I tried to take a CPR class a few yrs ago.


    Here is two off the top of my head;

    Sig offers a class called Bullets & Bandages. Its 3 days long and it is on my list to take.
    https://www.sigsaueracademy.com/prod...and-bandages-i

    Dark Angel also offers one.
    https://darkangelmedical.com/training/
    Yea, I have RC training every year and have nightmares about the CPR video for weeks after. Thanks for those links.
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    Not sure what area you're in, but I just finished taking Greg Ellifritz's Tactical First Aid & System Collapse Medicine class for the second time. It's 8 hours in the classroom with practical application for the trauma portion. I attended one in the Columbus area, but he teaches all over Ohio and a little bit in the Culpeper, VA area. https://www.activeresponsetraining.n...ilable-classes

    My friend Ben from Onsight Firearms Training has this class listed in September in the Pittsburgh area: https://www.facebook.com/events/497723300855772/ He also occasionally teaches in Virginia.
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    Look at TECC (civilian version of TCCC) and Wilderness First Responder.


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    Also look for a local Stop the Bleed class next time they come around. I took one at North American Rescue's HQ last year, and it covered tourniquet use, wound packing, and penetrating chest wounds. We got to practice all of those things, which was nice to get some hands on time.

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    Caleb Causey is a friend, and runs Lone Star Medics.

    https://www.lonestarmedics.com/services

    I have done multiple classes with him, and he is practical and a good instructor.

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