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    This last quote by Bloomberg sure as shit sounds like a good counter-argument to his gun control agenda.



    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/0...control-117123

    Bloomberg hammers Sanders on mixed gun control record
    Bloomberg’s attack is one of the sharpest yet of his campaign and represents an escalated broadside against Sanders.


    Former New York Mayor Mike Bloomberg on Monday unleashed one of his strongest attacks yet on Bernie Sanders, lashing the Democratic primary frontrunner's record on gun control.

    "The NRA paved the road to Washington for Bernie Sanders," Bloomberg wrote in a tweet. "He spent the next three decades making sure they got a return on their investment. We deserve a president who is not beholden to the gun lobby."

    A 90-second video accompanying the tweet notes that Sanders was elected to the House in 1990 with the support of the National Rifle Association, and has a mixed record on gun control. The spot highlights, among other votes, Sanders's opposition to a key background checks bill in the 1990s and votes in the early 2000s against allowing lawsuits against gun manufacturers, issues that aligned with NRA’s stance.

    Sanders senior adviser Jeff Weaver pushed back on the ad's implication that Sanders was endorsed by the NRA.

    “The NRA never endorsed Bernie Sanders and he has never taken a dime of their money. In fact, he lost his 1988 congressional race because he backed an assault weapons ban," he said. "But even after that, Sanders maintained his opposition to these weapons of war.”

    Sanders’ rivals have hit the senator on gun control in the past, and the issue dogged Sanders in his drawn-out battle with Hillary Clinton in 2016.

    But Bloomberg’s attack, one of the sharpest of his self-funded campaign, represents an escalated broadside against Sanders as he continues to build momentum after a commanding victory in the Nevada caucuses over the weekend. It also comes a little more than a week before Super Tuesday on March 3, when both men will appear on the ballot together for the first time. A strong performance by Sanders in those delegate-rich contests could put Sanders on glide path to the nomination.

    In a string of subsequent tweets, Bloomberg contrasted his own record on gun control as mayor and his gun control activism since leaving elected office, extending the attack on Sanders.

    Sanders, whose candidacy includes a strict gun control platform, has defended his votes on gun control by noting that, his personal evolution on the issue aside, his stance on the issue was representative of his relatively rural Vermont constituency.

    With regard to the Brady Bill, the 1993 law that mandated the establishment of the National Instant Criminal Background Check System, Sanders' campaign manager has argued that the Vermont senator believed at the time that the legislation constituted an example of federal overreach.

    But Sanders has long been an advocate for stronger gun control measures on the federal, state and local levels. In his interview last year with The New York Times editorial board, Sanders said that "the world has changed" since his votes against the Brady bill and acknowledged that "I certainly have changed" with regard to his opinions on gun control.

    And over the weekend, his campaign rolled out a slate of endorsements by gun control activists, including founders of the March for Our Lives movement formed in the wake of the 2018 shooting at the Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Fla.

    Bloomberg later pivoted his attack — part of an offensive that is only expected to expand — to hit Sanders on remarks made in an interview with "60 Minutes" the day before. In the interview, Sanders praised the literacy program Cuban dictator Fidel Castro implemented when he came in to power, while criticizing the authoritarian regime broadly.

    "Fidel Castro left a dark legacy of forced labor camps, religious repression, widespread poverty, firing squads, and the murder of thousands of his own people," Bloomberg wrote in a tweet, which included the "60 Minutes" clip. "But sure, Bernie, let’s talk about his literacy program."
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    Bernie is following the same path a Trump did in 2016. He has people energized and makes plenty of promises he can’t keep. Remember when Trump said he was going to build the wall and make Mexico pay for it? People ate that up and anyone with an ounce of common sense knew it was all BS. Bernie, while he might have the stupidest ideas we have seen from a mainstream candidate, is incredibly dangerous and will not be intimidated by Trump in the debates. Trump isn’t the savviest debater either so it might be more difficult to truly call Bernie on his BS. Don’t underestimate him or Bloomberg, it could very well spell trouble if we do.

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    Bernie has openly supported, and continues to support, the most murderous regimes in current history with no apologies given. He has his base energized over the prospect of all the free stuff they are going to get from us taxpayers and the social justice utopia he is going to build. Make no mistake, Bernie is the most dangerous person to our country at this time and should cause all of us to be wary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Life's a Hillary View Post
    Bernie is following the same path a Trump did in 2016. He has people energized and makes plenty of promises he can’t keep. Remember when Trump said he was going to build the wall and make Mexico pay for it? People ate that up and anyone with an ounce of common sense knew it was all BS. Bernie, while he might have the stupidest ideas we have seen from a mainstream candidate, is incredibly dangerous and will not be intimidated by Trump in the debates. Trump isn’t the savviest debater either so it might be more difficult to truly call Bernie on his BS. Don’t underestimate him or Bloomberg, it could very well spell trouble if we do.
    I think Bloomberg came into the race too late to overtake the momentum (even with a failing Biden campaign) Bernie has created.

    The only hope the DNC has for a candidate like Bloomberg or even Biden is for the remaining candidates not named Bernie Sanders to get enough delegates to have a brokered convention. The Superdelegates come into play and the powers that be get to pick and choose who they want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marco.g View Post
    Wasn’t he more of a communist by convenience anyway? A freedom fighter in need of a sponsor.

    Just seeing communist propaganda being regurgitated as fact threw me for a loop.
    That is what I always thought. I'm currently reading a book VIETNAM: An Epic Tragedy, 1945 -1975, by Max Hastings. Hastings has pretty much convinced me that kindly Uncle Ho, was red to the bone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by P2Vaircrewman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Grand58742 View Post
    It's barely hidden communism in that article...
    I love how they are all for the ballot box, and if that doesn't work.... The guy who wrote that article "Micah Uetricht is the managing editor of Jacobin magazine." Jacobin, as in Reign of Terror, Jacobin. As in the SS of the 19th Century. Sure, that's a great idea.


    Quote Originally Posted by marco.g View Post
    What kinda Ho Chi Minh bs is that? Class struggle, capitalist reactionaries?

    This is wild to see basically a communist propaganda pamphlet in print.
    Another old grandfatherly type that could be responsible for the death of millions.

    Quote Originally Posted by 26 Inf View Post
    That is what I always thought. I'm currently reading a book VIETNAM: An Epic Tragedy, 1945 -1975, by Max Hastings. Hastings has pretty much convinced me that kindly Uncle Ho, was red to the bone.
    The Vietnam TV series had Old Ho being fairly pro-US after WWII. I've also read that Castro was willing to play ball, both baseball and politics.

    You can say that 'free stuff' will win elections, but on the other side when you look at forgiving college debt, the number of people that will get debt forgiven is probably less than the number of people that either paid for college out of pocket, have paid off loans, or never went to college and are now going to have to pay off other people's student debts.

    Want to ruin all the great public institutions around the US- which are financed mainly by tuition and state spending- make them 'free' and hobble their ability to provide meaningful eduction, especially in anything that takes resources (STEM) to teach.
    The Second Amendment ACKNOWLEDGES our right to own and bear arms that are in common use that can be used for lawful purposes. The arms can be restricted ONLY if subject to historical analogue from the founding era or is dangerous (unsafe) AND unusual.

    It's that simple.

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    Bloomer calls Sanders a Commie. Sanders calls Bloomer an Oligarch. This is a rare occasion where they're both absolutely right...
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    Quote Originally Posted by 26 Inf View Post
    That is what I always thought. I'm currently reading a book VIETNAM: An Epic Tragedy, 1945 -1975, by Max Hastings. Hastings has pretty much convinced me that kindly Uncle Ho, was red to the bone.
    The more you know. Thanks for the book reference, will add it to the queue.

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    Less than five minutes in to this debate and Bernie already called out Bloomberg and Bloomberg invoked Putin.

    I watch this for the sheer entertainment value.
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    Takeaways an hour in...

    There are no moderators.

    Bernie is getting his ass handed to him.
    Experience is a cruel teacher, gives the exam first and then the lesson.

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