"Unbranded AR"

[Sry0fcr]

I would agree, I don't know of any company that does 100% in house. That being said, there are still standards that need to be kept. I was sent a link to TOS where a guy worked for DPMS and commented they had at one time supplied parts to almost everyone including BCM. Now, the less than intelligent groups will take that info and say BCM=DPMS. That is simply not true, not only was the comment made that it was in the past, but there was no mention of what parts. DPMS made LPKs which were very heavily used in the industry, and I would be stunned if the majority of companies hadn't used at least some of those LPK components at some point. I think we all know that BCM was not satisfied with the level of quality they were getting, and moved to get their own castings created. You can tell if you have real BCM pieces as they are all clearly marked

I'll tell a quick story here without violating any NDAs about being in an AR15 manufacturers shop, and everything was in boxes. The individual pieces like triggers, safety, discos, springs etc came in large boxes filled with thousands of parts all oily and ready for use. Each box held a large bag so the oil wouldn't leak out, and each held a large amount of the same parts. The assemblers would take a part, drop it in, and if it doesn't fit or feel right, they would just toss it back and grab another one. Tolerance stacking wasn't an issue, and neither was QC, because they had a massive amount of pieces to grab, and one would almost always work if the first didn't.

The above company did the same thing with receivers (upper and lower), but each receiver was vetted first by a person who did a QC check for putting, machine marks, anodizing etc. This was done on a white background with very good lighting to show off any flaws. If the receiver failed visual QC, it was put in a reject box. The items which failed visual or functional QC were tallied up at a certain point, and were returned to the vendor to get credit towards the next purchase. If the QC level hit a certain point, this manufacturer would cease dealing with that supplier. The items made in house went through the same QC checks (plus the ones done during mfg), with the end goal of having a quality weapon at the end.

Damn. I need to start consulting in the firearms industry. Forget this oil and gas stuff! I'm available for QMS implementations.

[Diamondback]

IF, and that is a big IF, the machine shop is ZRODELTA, they should be good to go. These are the guys who bought Warsport IIRC, as well as do a large amount of machine work both for themselves and others.

They appear to be, Stick. The Unbranded website says "Copyright ZRODELTA" at the bottom and phone numbers are same.

[GH41]

Check this out. She could probably ice to an eskimo! https://www.wideopenspaces.com/milit...romote-ar-15s/

[Diamondback]

So Unbranded = Critical Capabilities. Unbranded and ZROD are both based out of NC (Rutherford College/Connelly Springs respectively) while CC doesn't post their location.

From Unbranded's TOS: "unBrandedAR is a dba of ZRODelta, LLC, a North Carolina Limited Liability Company." https://www.unbrandedar.com/terms.asp All of CC's wbsite crosslinks to Unbranded, so that tells me that CC, Unb and ZRO are all related much like Kley-Zion to Botach.

[ccosby]

IF, and that is a big IF, the machine shop is ZRODELTA, they should be good to go. These are the guys who bought Warsport IIRC, as well as do a large amount of machine work both for themselves and others.

As others have confirmed it is what I though. The unbranded site contact says they are a DBA of zrodelta and if you look at zrodelta's website it points to unbranded under contract manufacturing.
https://zrodelta.com/contract-manufacturing/

I would agree, I don't know of any company that does 100% in house.

The only one that I know that was 100% in house, at least for a while was olympic arms. They even made their own small parts like springs. Now from a quality side......

You are correct on the rest. Its not just where the parts come from. The guy in the thread you were talking about mentioned that they were providing triggers for someone well known(I want to say JP) but that the vendor was doing the final finish and polishing work. That will make a huge different in the end product.

[ccosby]

Double post

[Stickman]

As others have confirmed it is what I though. The unbranded site contact says they are a DBA of zrodelta and if you look at zrodelta's website it points to unbranded under contract manufacturing.
https://zrodelta.com/contract-manufacturing/



The only one that I know that was 100% in house, at least for a while was olympic arms. They even made their own small parts like springs. Now from a quality side......

You are correct on the rest. Its not just where the parts come from. The guy in the thread you were talking about mentioned that they were providing triggers for someone well known(I want to say JP) but that the vendor was doing the final finish and polishing work. That will make a huge different in the end product.

Olympic Arms owned their own casting house, which allowed them to make most everything in house. In my dealings with OA they were not making springs, but they were making just about everything else. Things like springs, ball bearings and a few other parts just aren't realistic to make in house. The largest problem I saw with OA was their incredible unwillingness to throw out parts which were out of spec. OA was very capable to building a solid weapon, but Pops S just didn't want to see the money go in the trash. I still have one of their SUM barrels, and I think one or two other barrels from them which shoot well (all are SS).

[NQNPIII]

Damn. I need to start consulting in the firearms industry. Forget this oil and gas stuff! I'm available for QMS implementations.

Hunter? Is that you?

[Sry0fcr]

Hunter? Is that you?

Nah, I know what I'm talking about.

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[richiecotite]

A bit of an update...

A few weeks ago I bought a handguard for a new build using an aero upper. Unfortunately it didn’t fit correctly, the indentation on the barrel nut for the locking tab was a bit too far forward. I ended up buying a used MI rail and installing that one.

I emailed them about it, they told me to send it back for a refund. I’ve got another upper that I’m planning on trying a longer Unbranded on this one.




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