If there’s any thought or intermediate barriers, SMKs should be written off completely.
If there’s any thought or intermediate barriers, SMKs should be written off completely.
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Never tried it. But vicious_cb's post sounds about right. For OTM, if I were dealing with a barrier, I'd be sending a volley of rounds.
OTM's mediocre barrier penetration is actually a good thing for indoor/home defense right? That's part of the beauty of it. You're reducing your chances of a stray round hurting someone unintentionally.
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Yes, that was my thinking actually, considering my home layout and the family members. If I have to a pull a trigger, I expect to know where the bullet is going, BUT the other guy has some say. So I have always looked at this as less barrier penetration is better in my situation. I’m not manning a roadblock.
This has been lost in the archives I’m sure so I’ll leave this here for some anecdotal penetration results through drywall. Pics are gone but plenty of data to compare.
http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?112461-So-Which-Round-for-Home-Defense-You-Decide
Since reloading was mentioned, I remember Molon or somebody way back in the day mention that the Nosler 77gr OTM was constructed very similar to the 75gr TAP T2 round...thinner jackets on both than an SMK which made for violent fragmentation on unobstructed shots.
I personally feel comfortable with it inside structures based on my data. No question that a bonded does better...especially through glass. But standardization on one round is attractive to me too.
Last edited by Ironman8; 02-11-20 at 22:27.
Not sure why, but I can’t get the link to open on my phone.
Link is broken, try https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread...nse-You-Decide
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Thanks, and IM8 thanks for the info in that thread
Thanks for the assist DB. Had one too many “https” in there. Link is fixed.
No prob Jedi, hopefully it’s still useful info after all these years.
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