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    Tennessee’s Proposed Red Flag Law Would be the Worst in the Nation

    https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/te...in-the-nation/

    Tennessee’s Sen. Sara Kyle [D-Memphis] and Rep. Gloria Johnson [D-Knoxville] have found additional ways that would give their state a “red flag” law that’s far worse than any bill I’ve seen to date in any other state or at the federal level.

    Their bills (SB1807/HB1873) are crafted in such a way to make it absolutely clear that these are not simply the result of well-intentioned ignorance on the part of lawmakers. These bills are deliberately malicious.

    Aside from the usual family/household member or police, an order may be requested by anyone who ever went on a date with the subject (any “intimate partner”), any time, anywhere.
    The petitioner — no matter how spurious their claim — cannot be hit with any court costs.
    The ex parte (not present) subject of a “red flag” confiscation order, however, is hit with the court costs, including those normally charged to the petitioner (“all court costs, filing fees, litigation taxes, and attorney fees shall be assessed against the respondent”).
    The target of a confiscation order cannot have a hearing for at least five days, and it can be up to thirty days before one takes place.
    And the pièce de résistance: An order may be requested by any Tennessee resident against anyone anywhere in the world (the respondent — target — doesn’t have to be a resident of Tennessee, though how they’d enforce those orders in other jurisdictions isn’t quite clear).
    If those aren’t enough, an order can be “served” on the target simply by mailing it to their last address known to the petitioner. After that, the poor sucker is subject to arrest for “violating” the order even if he didn’t get it and doesn’t know about it. There’s a good chance of that because according to the bill’s language, “service” is complete upon dropping the envelope in the mail, not when it is received.

    Just in case you were holding out hope that a judge would exercise discretion in issuing a “red flag” confiscation order, as has finally happened in Colorado, the Tennessee bills specify that confiscation petitions “shall be liberally construed procedurally in favor of the petitioner.“

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    So much for my thoughts of possibly retiring to TN. NFW

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    I don't see any chance of this passing- look who the two sponsors are. My state representative will be getting an email from me on this but knowing how stance on the 2nd Amendment and government overreach he will be voting this down anyway.
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    I read this today and about lost my mind. I suspect these will not pass but I am going to write my Reps and get a petition going to vote against these ridiculous pieces of garbage bills.
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    Gun-grabbing democrat legislators can propose whatever they like. Making it into law is an entirely different matter.

    Gun-grabbing democrat legislators scream every time Tennessee passes pro-gun legislation year after year. They screamed when we passed gun in bars. Screamed when we passed loaded guns in vehicles without a carry permit. And most recently, screamed about issuing concealed carry permits absent mandatory training that went into effect this January. Lots of screaming... not much gun-grabbing passed into law.

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    This will be DOA.

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    It might be DOA, but it's just another example of how far the Democratic Party is; they're not even bothering to hide behind things like "common sense" blah blah blahs, and instead are openly pushing crap like this.
    ...they should have seen that arms in their citizens' hands could not make them tyrants, but that evil orders of government make a city tyrannize. Since they had a good government, they did not have to fear their own arms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmoore View Post
    So much for my thoughts of possibly retiring to TN. NFW

    geezer john
    No kidding. My wife and I have been looking at TN as our empty nest retirement home as Michigan winters are beginning to take a toll.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmoore View Post
    So much for my thoughts of possibly retiring to TN. NFW

    geezer john
    Quote Originally Posted by sapper36 View Post
    No kidding. My wife and I have been looking at TN as our empty nest retirement home as Michigan winters are beginning to take a toll.
    Tennessee has had a pretty good run with pro gun legislation lately. Hopefully this will be DOA as others say. As aggressive as the grabbers are becoming I don't know if any state is safe. Though mine are republican and hopefully vote against it, I'll be contacting my representatives anyway.

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