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The AK specs are I believe still a state secret in Russia...
There are so many aK variants it would be almost impossible to list them...The milled rifles like this Arsenal are considered some of the best.
IMO the milled Arsenals are akin to the top of the line AR's like the 6920..which is why for me it is tempting to find a trade..
Are the 6920's still ran in batches..I had a 6450 at one point and knew they were
your wordsRD bills his AK's as "fighting guns"... sort of a novelty if you ask me.
never said that sar1s weren't builty for fighting. just that some of the custom guns, RD, AZresponse put that little extra effort in to make the guns function and perform the to the best of the design ability. same goes for colt, noveske, and lmt. you can call a bushy a fighting gun, the DEA uses rock rivers, but it's colt, noveske and lmt that put that extra effort in to make sure their rifles function and perform the way they were designed to.how is a Rifle Dynamics AK "built for FIGHT!ing" but a SAR-1 not?
OK. aside from the fact that you said RD builds his AKs as "fighting guns" and called it a novelty. then turned around in the next post and said that fighting guns are not novelties.....
i consider someone who takes the time to build a rifle to your preferences and hand fit parts in the process with great attention to detail, as putting in the extra effort.
YMMV
Last edited by stronghold; 11-20-08 at 21:54.
You brought it up but you are being evasive now. Let me ask you a simple question: of the builders that you just described, what exactly do they do to the average Kalashnikov rifle that makes it more reliable or more accurate?
You said that the AK's built by these guys were "built as hard working guns" ... and I am asking compared to what? The non-hard working AK's?
You said that they "hand fit parts in the process"... well, that describes how ALL AK's are built. They require a lot of effort and a lot of hand-fitting and detail work to build.
So the reason I said it was sort of a novelty is because the "we build AK's specifically for warriors" thing sounds more like a marketing gimmick to me.
will a Durakote job (grey) hurt the value of my riflesince they are going up in price & all'
Last edited by ZOMBIE101; 11-20-08 at 22:18.
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asking what they do over any other AK manufacturer is like asking what les baer does to the 1911 over any other manufacturer. how can you not appreciate the benefits of skilled gunsmiths and hand fitting, over assembly line mfg and hired hands that don't care about he end product?
if you believe that a wasr10 is built in the same fashion as a RD or AZresponse or even krebs gun, well then, i guess we can agree to disagree.
as for more accurate, i never mentioned accuracy. i believe i stated early on that even the arsenals, which i believe to be some of the best examples of AKs, shoot no better than anything else.
my apologies to the OP for getting off-topic.
for a safe queen i think the colt has a bit more following than the arsenal. a fella once told me that most AK shooters don't appreciate the refinements of the arsenal, but i guess the same could be said of AR shooters and the colt.
Last edited by stronghold; 11-20-08 at 22:26.
No apologies needed...I like it when the threads have some fluidity...
As far as refinishing a rifle...whether Gunkote or something else...to the purist.."yes" it hurts re-sale...but it all depends on the rifle...as some of the Arsenal SLR105's (stamped AK74 clones) had horrible factory finishes...and it was well documented they did...so re-finishing if done properly..leaving crisp stampings, markings, etc..shouldn't hurt value..
I would agree most AK guys are more shooters, and as such the Colt probably has more of an universal demand...which is why I think I'm going to look for a 6920 this weekend and see what can be worked out..
Is anyone else going to the Chantilly, VA (NOVA) gun show this weekend?
Greg
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