Battle ready Ar15

[lew.45]

I vote for a DDM4V7.

[Willoj]

Going with Kac. Thanks for the info. I’m also buying several stools for my office.

[turnburglar]

Going with Kac. Thanks for the info. I’m also buying several stools for my office.

LOL, this never gets old.

[AO777]

I guess FN or Colt since they hold the TDP... but Plenty of great options out there

[kirkland]

I guess FN or Colt since they hold the TDP... but Plenty of great options out there

FN can't legally sell a TDP rifle to civilians though, Colt can. That's the difference.

[AO777]

FN collector series is pretty close.

[MistWolf]

FN can't legally sell a TDP rifle to civilians though, Colt can. That's the difference.

FN is not allowed to claim their civilian M4s meet the TDP.

[MikhailBarracuda91]

FN is not allowed to claim their civilian M4s meet the TDP.

Exactly, with the newer production military collector series being produced in Columbia south Carolina it would be more expensive for them to make a different rifle than the mil spec version. It just doesn't have the proof markings

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[DoubleW]

Do much battle?

[pinzgauer]

Exactly, with the newer production military collector series being produced in Columbia south Carolina it would be more expensive for them to make a different rifle than the mil spec version. It just doesn't have the proof markings

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FN is not allowed to claim their civilian M4s meet the TDP.

My understanding was they are not allowed to use proprietary information from the TDP to produce the rifle. Just not claiming it met the TDP is no protection at all.

I also recall side by side comparisons of internal teardowns that clearly showed the commercial fns were not the military production rifles with different specific fire control items. At best they shared receiver, barrel, and a few other large components.

To me this is like getting a Colt or LMT receiver and maybe even barrel and then just putting a bunch of commercial stuff on it. Maybe an okay rifle, or even exactly what you want. But it's not the same as the military issue rifle. Which is 6920 is, at least until recently.

I did build a complete lightweight upper using nothing but Daniel Defense parts, but only because they didn't sell that configuration anymore. The only thing I couldn't easily get from them was the Delta ring assembly so I used a Colt.

Is this a Daniel Defense upper? I would not sell it as such. And really wouldn't consider the FN commercial rifles to be the same based on what I know. That until someone does side-by-side teardowns that confirms the point.

It's not that hard, and FN knows it's an issue. Colt very clearly it was an issue with some of their heritage lines, I talked with the factory guys about this at one of the NRA convention shows a while back.

Just do a side-by-side list and show what's the same and that the stuff that isn't the same, it's because of specific reasons.

There are bubba's who just want something that looks the same and has the rollmark and this will satisfy them just like the Colt heritage stuff did. But is not the same.