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    CORVID-19 Preps?

    I already have some “flu” preps in place, but I added a few more N95 masks. Anyone else doing anything specific in anticipation of the CORVID-19 making its way over here?

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    Lots of hand sanitizer, some splash goggles, wet wipes and nitrile gloves.
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    I don't worry about COVID-19. I do wash my hands a lot. Of course, it's flu season, and I work in a hospital, so....I do that anyway.

    If and when there's a vaccine, "they" will probably put me toward the head of the line when it's distributed. I'll likely go ahead and get it, especially if it ever gets to the US in significant numbers. Like most hospitals, the ones that I work in require all employees to get a flu shot in the fall. You can opt not to, but if you so choose then you have to wear an N95 mask at all times where you might contact patients. In the unlikely event that COVID-19 becomes an issue here then I'm sure vaccination will be required for it too.
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    Basic preps are just my everyday mundane practices: hand washing /hand sanitizer readily available / avoid close contact w/most people when out and about.

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    Couple of things to note:

    • hand washing (with soap) for less that 20 seconds is of marginal benefit
    • use of a hand sanitizer with less that 60% alcohol is of negligible benefit
    • best benefit is hand washing with soap for 20 seconds, then using alcohol-based hand sanitizer
    • the high speed air blowers one sees in bathrooms actually deposit more fecal coliforms on your hands than when you walked into that bathroom, according to before-and-after hand cultures.
    • Avoid, the high-speed hand dryers and use the no-touch paper towel dispensers that are now common.
    • paper surgical masks are pretty much useless. Get an N95. Better yet...get several and change regularly.



    Note that one of the most common hand sanitizers around is Purell Advanced hand sanitizer. It is 50-55% alcohol and they were recently cautioned by the FDA for calling their product viricidal or bactericidal (because it's not).

    Also note that the cautions above regarding high speed hand dryers are also true of the Dyson blowers that advertise HEPA filtration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hmac View Post
    I don't worry about COVID-19. I do wash my hands a lot. Of course, it's flu season, and I work in a hospital, so....I do that anyway.

    If and when there's a vaccine, "they" will probably put me toward the head of the line when it's distributed. I'll likely go ahead and get it, especially if it ever gets to the US in significant numbers. Like most hospitals, the ones that I work in require all employees to get a flu shot in the fall. You can opt not to, but if you so choose then you have to wear an N95 mask at all times where you might contact patients. In the unlikely event that COVID-19 becomes an issue here then I'm sure vaccination will be required for it too.
    Everything I'm reading by non hysterical science based sources suggests COVID-19 is less dangerous than some forms of influenza, and a virologist I listened to on NPR said while it's more transmissible than prior viruses in this family, it's also less virulent than prior viruses such as SARS. While I sure as hell would prefer to not have COVID-19, I'm unclear what the freak out is about. Do you have some thoughts on that one?
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    Quote Originally Posted by WillBrink View Post
    Everything I'm reading by non hysterical science based sources suggests COVID-19 is considerably less dangerous than influenza, and a virologist I listened to on NPR said while it's more transmissible than prior viruses in this family, it's also less virulent than prior viruses such as SARS. While I sure as hell would prefer to not have COVID-19, I'm unclear what the freak out is about. Do you have some thoughts on that one?
    Where did you hear it is less dangerous than influenza which has a death rate of .1-.2% this year while corvid-19 is running at least 2-3% or over 10 times as much? And that NPR virologist didn't bother to mention that yes while only half as lethal as SARS that even using the official Chinese numbers which are likely bogus it has already infected about 10 times the number infected with SARS and is not done yet. Really don't listen to propaganda, look at the actions of governments, are China, Italy and South Korean acting like it's no big deal. We are likely in the early stages of a pandemic, I suspect that like it is looking in Iran that it will run like wildfire through less developed countries.

    But here are a few points to ponder.

    How long does the flu last, a week, corvid-19 asymptomatic contagious up to 27 days, recovery time after symptoms appear 3 weeks or longer. If you develop serious symptoms you are looking at a month in the hospital. Also more reports are coming out that unlike the flu you have no immunity after you recover, you can be reinfected and if so your survival chances plummet plus there are reports of recovered patients testing clean then relapsing and then testing positive.

    Even if we dodge the bullet here in the USA, the worldwide economic fallout is likely to be severe.

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    >less dangerous than the flu

    Imagine still believing this lmfao.



    Quote Originally Posted by WillBrink View Post
    Everything I'm reading by non hysterical science based sources suggests COVID-19 is considerably less dangerous than influenza, and a virologist I listened to on NPR said while it's more transmissible than prior viruses in this family, it's also less virulent than prior viruses such as SARS. While I sure as hell would prefer to not have COVID-19, I'm unclear what the freak out is about. Do you have some thoughts on that one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Outlander Systems View Post
    >less dangerous than the flu

    Imagine still believing this lmfao.

    And what % of people exposed to that virus develop that are not Older patients (>65 years) and or with comorbidities? Is it higher than with influenza? I'm not sure what the answer is, but that little screen shot is of no real value. The full paper I will read asap:

    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...079-5/fulltext
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    Quote Originally Posted by WillBrink View Post
    Everything I'm reading by non hysterical science based sources suggests COVID-19 is considerably less dangerous than influenza, and a virologist I listened to on NPR said while it's more transmissible than prior viruses in this family, it's also less virulent than prior viruses such as SARS. While I sure as hell would prefer to not have COVID-19, I'm unclear what the freak out is about. Do you have some thoughts on that one?
    Business as usual on M4C General Discussion. Same actors predicting the end of the world when ebola was a thing. Google searches are ongoing, minds are made up. No point in engaging. Time will tell.

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