Bloomberg Wants Hillary Clinton as Running Mate

[Grand58742]

I don't agree.

There were a number of moderates/idiots last time that sat out or voted 3rd party because they didn't like Hillary or Trump, but would have voted for someone like McCain/Romney.

My sister's in-laws are retarded and are exactly like this. Just happen to be from Iowa also, where all these retards like that exist.

Bloomberg is exactly what they want.

I think there are a number of moderates/idiots that also have seen what's been going on the past three years in regards to Trump and are angered by both sides of the equation. Biggest thing to take away from 2016 that can (and probably will) repeat in 2020 is the revolt of the people.

Trump wasn't elected, but more installed by a revolution of the people against the system that had been operating for years. They were fed up with having to pick the bad or worse choice deemed by the elite few in the major parties that controlled such things.

Enter Trump who didn't talk like a politician, didn't act like a politician and moreover, wasn't afraid to rock the political boat. The media as well as both political parties and pundits alike tried everything to destroy him before November 2016. The people saw this and weren't afraid to go against the system and put in a man of questionable character when he clearly wasn't the best "political" choice. The GOP figured it out and let things play out with what the people wanted. The DNC and media still haven't figured it out and keeps attacking him which is going to ensure his reelection.

Again, Bloomberg has way too much political baggage to be a viable choice for moderates. You and I both agree the media will do its best to cover it up, but the reporting on it was done years ago and it's way too easy to give the 30 second paid campaign commercial exposing his idiocy over the years. They aren't going to collect the Bernie vote with Bloomberg, they aren't going to collect the minority vote and they aren't going to gain the Rust Belt vote.

I just don't see Bloomberg pulling in the centrist Republicans or even the independent voters.

[SomeOtherGuy]

He still will have a majority of support from black/latinos. A voting bloc that votes overwhelming left.

We're just going to disagree on this one. Anyone with more skill than Jeb Bush could absolutely savage Bloomberg over his recent record. Trump has actually gained some support with those groups, and the remaining 80% or so will stay home or skip that office on their ballot instead of voting for someone who openly insults and hates them.

I'm sure that DNC/Bloomberg proponents would try to do all the usual DNC ballot manipulation fakery, but as far as I can tell that relies on lots of people at the grassroots level who just won't be energized to support Bloomberg that way.

He will also have support from a significant swath of moderates/RINOs/statist/deep state to make up for any lost minority vote. See my previous post.

I agree he could get most of this group, I just question if that's enough.

Again, Bloomberg has way too much political baggage to be a viable choice for moderates. You and I both agree the media will do its best to cover it up, but the reporting on it was done years ago and it's way too easy to give the 30 second paid campaign commercial exposing his idiocy over the years.

Important to remember that there are tons of independent media outlets on the middle left and far left, and they will not toe the line for Bloomberg or anyone similar. The increasingly irrelevant major TV networks and few remaining newspapers (like Jeff Bezos' blog) will happily cheer Bloomberg, but far-left active voters don't get their news from those any more.

The Dems have been sowing hyper-classification and grudge mentalities for decades, they are going to reap what they sow.

Remember that AOC came from nowhere to defeat a 10-term "D" Congressman in a safe D district in NYC. She won with a socialist message and support of an openly socialist group, plus playing to race/color politics.

[scottryan]

I just don't see Bloomberg pulling in the centrist Republicans or even the independent voters.

This is where we will have to disagree.

I see him being popular with that group, low information centrist type voters. I can think of 20 people in my personal life that would take Bloomberg over Trump (that sat out of the last election) because they didn't like Trump.

[Life's a Hillary]

This is where we will have to disagree.

I see him being popular with that group, low information centrist type voters. I can think of 20 people in my personal life that would take Bloomberg over Trump (that sat out of the last election) because they didn't like Trump.

This 100%. There are plenty of centrist types that don’t care about guns but are mostly conservative and they hate Trump. Forums like this are a little bubble that doesn’t reflect the greater population.

[Grand58742]

This is where we will have to disagree.

I see him being popular with that group, low information centrist type voters. I can think of 20 people in my personal life that would take Bloomberg over Trump (that sat out of the last election) because they didn't like Trump.

I don't though, so we'll agree to disagree.

I do think the DNC has placed themselves into an impossible position. You have two factions of the party that just cannot get along. You have your far left socialist portion which is supporting Bernie and your more middle of the road "traditional" Democrats who would support someone like Biden or Bloomberg. Here's the thing...

If the DNC nominates Bernie, they lose that middle of the road block. While they dislike Trump, they aren't going to be happy with what Bernie would want to do. If they nominate someone like Biden or Bloomberg, they lose the Bernie vote. In short, they screwed themselves by letting Bernie declare himself as a Democrat (especially since he's an Independent outside of election season) and letting him use their "machine" during primaries.

[chuckman]

Bloomberg has enough out there to show he wants a very left agenda. Centrists and left-republicans will see this. But, so will Hispanics and blacks, and although some will vote for Trump, most will vote for whoever is the democrat candidate.

[flenna]

If Bloomberg gets the nomination it will be interesting to watch the MSM and ComDem spin it will take to support him. Bloombucks is exactly what the current candidates and party have been railing against- an openly racist, super rich old white guy. That is who the ComDems want standing behind the curtain with an open checkbook not out front leading the show.

[chuckman]

If Bloomberg gets the nomination it will be interesting to watch the MSM and ComDem spin it will take to support him. Bloombucks is exactly what the current candidates and party have been railing against- an openly racist, super rich old white guy. That is who the ComDems want standing behind the curtain with an open checkbook not out front leading the show.

But he's THEIR openly racist, super rich old white guy, one who promises all sorts of freebies and who (according to them) has been there, done that in NYC delivering the people from evil.

[Grand58742]

But he's THEIR openly racist, super rich old white guy, one who promises all sorts of freebies and who (according to them) has been there, done that in NYC delivering the people from evil.

As a Republican lol

Bet that part is conveniently left out...

[Business_Casual]

Remember that AOC came from nowhere to defeat a 10-term "D" Congressman in a safe D district in NYC. She won with a socialist message and support of an openly socialist group, plus playing to race/color politics.

Not so sure that tells the tale of what happened in that election. He didn’t bother to campaign in person and she ran a community organizer end-run on him. She didn’t pile up a huge margin to win.