Buying Your Pseudo-Military Stuff from China

[JediGuy]

It seems like the involvement of American purchasers (both corporate and individual retail) in funding Chinese companies to develop better and better red dot sights, electronic devices, and so on will have only resulted in both capital and knowledge moving to an enemy of our way of life.

Every person who buys a knockoff micro RDS (even from the “big names”) or scope, or even an iPhone, may end up being complicit in funding the design and purchase of weapons that will be used to fairly decent effect against US soldiers at some point in the future. Or do you think that those same companies wouldn’t be nationalized to produce those “as good as an Aimpoint” items the second we got involved in a conflict?

It’s something that needs to be said. I’m all about free trade. I’m not a fan of DJT’s approach to economics. I’m all about distributing labor to lift the entire world out of poverty. But there’s a limit.
I think we’re going to reap the wildwind on this. And I think it’s only honest to acknowledge our involvement, without the usual “well, everyone else is doing it, my purchase didn’t matter.”

I don’t care about Harleys or Cadillacs, the Chinese can have those.

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[marco.g]

Though I don’t completely disagree with your sentiment. Slick Willy sold China our strategic defense secrets during his term. In the grand scheme of things, small arms accessories are a small drop in the bucket.

Also if the Chinese really want something, they’ll just fire up the corporate espionage servers. Ain’t no thing.

[Adrenaline_6]

The Chinese are fully capable of copying whatever they want at that level. Copyright infringement is kind of null and void in a state of war.

Aimpoint is Swedish anyway. Your question should be why isn't there a US company that makes a competing product?

[jpmuscle]

Your question should be why isn't there a US company that makes a competing product?

100% this.

That said. Government needs to unfvck the cost of manufacturing in the US if anything is to ever change.

Also, trijicon and Aimpoint had one job going into SHOT and they blew it miserably so I for one have no qualms about picking up a holosun 509T when they’re released. That’s how markets work.

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[MountainRaven]

"May end up complicit"? May?

I'd bet there's some Talib in some cave in Afghanistan, right now, with a Holosun on his gun. A rugged, reliable Holosun developed in China using American dollars. And has very likely been used to shoot at American servicemen and -women in Afghanistan.

There is probably some ISIS dude in Syria or Iraq, someone associated with Hezbollah, who is similarly equipped.

Of course, there are probably also allied Kurds hunting said ISIS dudes with rifles so equipped, as well. And if it weren't for those cheap, Chinese-made red dots and LPVOs, plenty of our allies wouldn't have as great of access to these force multipliers, either.

[pinzgauer]

"May end up complicit"? May?

I'd bet there's some Talib in some cave in Afghanistan, right now, with a Holosun on his gun. A rugged, reliable Holosun developed in China using American dollars. And has very likely been used to shoot at American servicemen and -women in Afghanistan.

Countries have always cloned/copied US issued optics or similar.

Do you really think they wouldn't clone acogs or red dots, even if they (clones) weren't allowed to be sold in the US?

Most guys in caves aren't using rifles one of these would easily go on anyway.

I sort of understand the core sentiment, I think some of the examples are a bit extreme.

[jsbhike]

And Aimpoint is based in a country even more Socialist than we are.

[Outlander Systems]

Daily reminder that automation is going to BTFO Chinese slave labor.

100% this.

That said. Government needs to unfvck the cost of manufacturing in the US if anything is to ever change.

Also, trijicon and Aimpoint had one job going into SHOT and they blew it miserably so I for one have no qualms about picking up a holosun 509T when they’re released. That’s how markets work.

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[Mjolnir]

Daily reminder that automation is going to BTFO Chinese slave labor.

Why not? It’s going to BTFO of US labor, too.




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[Hmac]

. Your question should be why isn't there a US company that makes a competing product?

Or, more specifically...."Why isn't there a US company that makes a competing product at the same price?"

Given the choice, I'd prefer to buy an iPhone made in the US rather than an iPhone made in China...I'd even pay a little more for it. Until that's a possibility, well....I'm going to buy an iPhone.


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