223/5.56 Ammo For Hitting Steel At 500 Yards

**gaijin** · 03-10-20, 18:46

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Mounds, of any type- particularly those not covered with grass/weeds, are in short supply in most of Kansas.

I’m at the point of hauling dirt/fill to the North pasture and creating berms to have any chance of seeing misses.
A moderate project and considerable PITA.

**spence** · 03-10-20, 21:53

Originally Posted by gaijin

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Mounds, of any type- particularly those not covered with grass/weeds, are in short supply in most of Kansas.

I’m at the point of hauling dirt/fill to the North pasture and creating berms to have any chance of seeing misses.
A moderate project and considerable PITA.

Ain't that the truth. I recently decided to change my zero up a bit. Double checked zero, and started moving back. I've got an 8" plate with a stand I built set way out yonder around 650 yards from my neighbor's house, so the option is walk out through the wheat with the rifle to change distance. 330 yards I was golden. Moved to 375 and it fell apart because I could not figure where the heck I was at since there's a bunch of grass behind it.

**Pappabear** · 03-17-20, 17:54

You could load up our slammer ammo, 62 grain BTHP Midsouth shooters at .10 a round will work for 500 yards all day long. Choose your favorite powder and shoot cheap pills to 500.

PB

**Pappabear** · 03-17-20, 17:55

Originally Posted by spence

Ain't that the truth. I recently decided to change my zero up a bit. Double checked zero, and started moving back. I've got an 8" plate with a stand I built set way out yonder around 650 yards from my neighbor's house, so the option is walk out through the wheat with the rifle to change distance. 330 yards I was golden. Moved to 375 and it fell apart because I could not figure where the heck I was at since there's a bunch of grass behind it.

It is really night and day having a berm. Our 500 does not. But 6- 750-900 and the 1,000 has this god giving blessing of a mound for us. 1,300 as well. Get the bulldozer out.

PB

**sinister** · 03-19-20, 11:43

Originally Posted by gaijin

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Mounds, of any type- particularly those not covered with grass/weeds, are in short supply in most of Kansas.

I’m at the point of hauling dirt/fill to the North pasture and creating berms to have any chance of seeing misses.
A moderate project and considerable PITA.

A simple berm or bay can work wonders for flat-landers.

They don't necessarily have to be big or expensive to be effective and safe.

Some ideas that should put your mind at ease. They're always better the higher they are, plus a cap or vertical wall will capture ricochets (which will happen). A trench plate mounted vertically or sloped toward the shooter should catch most ricochets. The Air Force has some interesting ranges in semi-urban areas to fire machineguns for the base security force.

**Dr. Bullseye** · 03-20-20, 11:19

Originally Posted by TomPenguin5145

I am limited to a 500 yard range here. I have a 14.7" BA Barrel. I am not looking to punch 4 leaf clovers. I don't care about terminal ballistics and what it does to gel. I don't really have a lot of experience loading and shooting out to 500 yards. I am talking about hitting steel target, 16" or so, at 500 yards. The object here is to use what I run on the street, which is my 14.7 with a dot on top.

I know everyone favors 77 SMK and the like for "long range" .223/5.56. I know markm has a good load for the 77smk using 21.6 (21.8)gns of H322. What I want to know is would something like a 53 Vmax work just as well or better for this "shorter" distance? I am shooting with a Red Dot/Magnifier. I am kinda thinking the 53 Vmax would shoot flatter then the 77 SMK making it slightly easier to figure out holds.

Or am I just giving this too much thought?

I can hit at 500 yards with my Ultradyne irons and anything a gun shop sells in the way of ammo. I doubt if the limiting factor is ammo.

**markm** · 03-20-20, 13:12

Originally Posted by Dr. Bullseye

I can hit at 500 yards with my Ultradyne irons and anything a gun shop sells in the way of ammo. I doubt if the limiting factor is ammo.

You should have seen us one evening in diminishing light. I brought out some reloaded M196 pull down tracers and we shot them at 500. Holy smokes it was funny to watch them fly horribly. One actually curved into the wind. I think I got one on steel. But shitty bullets do fly poorly.