https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tru...h-pardon-kerik
This makes me very angry.
Not angry enough to not vote again for President Trump. But angry, I still think Nixon should have rotted in prison.
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https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tru...h-pardon-kerik
This makes me very angry.
Not angry enough to not vote again for President Trump. But angry, I still think Nixon should have rotted in prison.
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Wait, isn’t that basically the definition of the swamp that was going to be drained?
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Did anyone that wasn't part of the ruling class get a commutation or pardon? Asking because I can't find anything besides the crook from Ill.
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I imagine he cut some political deals with D powerbrokers in Illinois for the Blagoj pardon; maybe some dirt on Obama that he can use, or something. And maybe Kerik has some dirt on Bloomberg, or something else that makes political sense. He could also be setting the stage for seemingly inevitable pardons of Flynn and Roger Stone. (For the record, I think Flynn is innocent of any crime and was a purely political target; Stone probably committed some petty crimes but wouldn't have been prosecuted at all, minus the politics.)
Not praising or excusing it. I don't think much of Trump, but like many of us I voted for him because he was less-bad than Hillary. I would vote for any decent person instead if they had a chance. So far no decent people are running this year.
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I'm definitely in agreement with your sentiments.
Very disappointing, and, unfortunately, not very surprising.
I can not believe that President Trump doesn't see this as angering many in his base. He either had some very poor advice, or really thinks he's so popular an infallible that he can do what he wants. To me the latter is more likely and that is just as much a danger to us as the batshit crazy democrats are.
You can try to convince yourselves that this is some kind of 4D chess, like SomeOtherGuy mentioned, but quite frankly I just think it is just one of the guys taking care of some of the other guys in his circle.
Unfortunately, President Trump is the only game in town for my vote at this time.
ETA: Let's see Lindsay Graham spin this shit.
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It's easy to see all of his executive clemency actions:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...y_Donald_Trump
As you can see, Trump really has no pattern on clemency. The people he grants clemency come from widely different social, economic and political backgrounds. I think his early and often use of clemency stems from ego. By that I mean as POTUS, he literally has power over these people's lives. He can be benevolent to them and it doesn't cost him a dime. That makes him feel good about himself and provides positive feedback from many people, while tweaking the noses of those who dislike him.
It's not that I think these pardons are calculated or lack empathy, quite the opposite. But it does benefit him even if only on a personal satisfaction level. One person petitioning him for clemency right now is Reality Winner, and I wouldn't be surprised if he grants it, despite her crime being personally detrimental to Trump. That's just how he is.
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Had to look him up. But THAT POS? Even the Dems got so sick of his shit they dumped him.
The whole Oprah for Senator shit was sickening. This guy is one of the worst examples of modern politics, I can't imagine why Trump gave him a pass.
It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.
Chuck, we miss ya man.
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At least Blago was honest about being a crook.
Could this be a trade for info to get someone else? The guy who tried to buy Obama’s Senate seat is now the governor of Illinois. Nothing was ever said about it.
And I do think Blago was set up. But why?
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Looks like the majority of the connected convictions actually did something that harmed another.
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