President Trumps let's crooks off

[prdubi]

For perspective, there was a local guy that killed his wife, chopped her up, and put the pieces of her in multiple McDonalds trashcans throughout the area.


He got out in 8 years.

Im not saying white collar crimes should be softer, but there should be consistency of more time for worse crimes.
You have people in prison for life for growing a plant, or 10years + for having possession of a machinegun. Its just hard to get worked up about the pardons when these other situations are the norm.

You speak the truth like a breath of fresh air...



Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk

[SteyrAUG]

Trump hit it off with Blagojevich during his time on Celebrity Apprentice. IMO, he pardoned him simply because they’re buddies.

At least that makes sense on some level.

[Business_Casual]

Trump hit it off with Blagojevich during his time on Celebrity Apprentice. IMO, he pardoned him simply because they’re buddies.

No, he did it because Comey and others from the swamp were the prosecution.

[sundance435]

You have to have lived in IL through the Blago trial to truly appreciate how slimy he is and how deserving he was of a 14-year sentence. To me it's a false equivalency to say that his sentence was too severe when compared to violent criminals. The sentence was appropriate for the person holding the highest office in the state, who was recorded hundreds of times trying to auction off a senate seat for actual money, not just a political chit. Sentences for public corruption should be severe and not compared with violent crimes or even other white-collar crimes and I have zero issues with the 14 year sentence. I do have an issue with Trump's pardon. There was no objective reason to do it, other than as a big F-You to anyone who supported his impeachment. It garners him no points with anyone and doesn't lend itself to "draining the swamp". Illinois is the swampiest state in the Union and Blago was head alligator here for 8 years. Just dumb, dumb, dumb.

[glocktogo]

I will start by noting I thought and still do think Nixon should have gone to prison.

I hope and pray, that ALL the people involved in the BS around the 2016 election go to jail for a long time.

So I am an equal opportunity kind of guy when it comes to justice.

Yeah, but they won't. The political class in this country is more out of control than drunken sailors during Fleet Week.

Sure. Me too. But maybe not 14 years. Maybe a felony conviction, 5 years, and some harsh fines with severe probation restrictions or halfway house when they get out.

Prison should be prioritized for violent people that need to be separated from society.

Always leave room in prison for the truly violent, they deserve it after all. As for the grifters, I admit hypocrisy in that I care more about who was fleeced and how badly it impacted their lives. Blago (at least on the surface) doesn't seem to have caused people to kill themselves like Bernie Madoff. I don't care if he has Stage IV butt cancer, he deserves to die in prison.

Crooked politicians, judges, and law enforcement officers should receive double the punishment of anyone else. They are entrusted by the populace to do what is right, there should be extra consequences for betraying that trust.

Blago stopped money from going to a children’s hospital when his shake down of the ceo didn’t work. That guy can rot in a cell for all I care, he is pure human scum.

I wasn't aware of that. If so, yeah he probably deserves to stay in prison, especially if it impacted any sick kids directly.

White collar prisons exist too and we would never put violent offenders in those, but I'm still in favor of a rope and a ladder.

I'd be all for putting a crack slinging hoe beater in Madoff's cell. Just sayin...

No, he did it because Comey and others from the swamp were the prosecution.

If it tweaked Comey's nose? Worth it...

[Business_Casual]

You have to have lived in IL through the Blago trial to truly appreciate how slimy he is and how deserving he was of a 14-year sentence. To me it's a false equivalency to say that his sentence was too severe when compared to violent criminals. The sentence was appropriate for the person holding the highest office in the state, who was recorded hundreds of times trying to auction off a senate seat for actual money, not just a political chit. Sentences for public corruption should be severe and not compared with violent crimes or even other white-collar crimes and I have zero issues with the 14 year sentence. I do have an issue with Trump's pardon. There was no objective reason to do it, other than as a big F-You to anyone who supported his impeachment. It garners him no points with anyone and doesn't lend itself to "draining the swamp". Illinois is the swampiest state in the Union and Blago was head alligator here for 8 years. Just dumb, dumb, dumb.

So you know he is fully guilty of the specific crimes because you reviewed the Statues and the pertinent evidence personally or because you heard it in the same media that lies to you 24x7 on every other topic?

In his first trial, the only charge they convicted on was - wait for it - lying to the FBI.

[just a scout]

Read this. I can't vouch for the accuracy, but it makes sense.

https://pjmedia.com/trending/should-...O9MVu32S75W4L0

[Todd.K]

In his first trial, the only charge they convicted on was - wait for it - lying to the FBI.

If it was me I would pardon every single person that was convicted based on a 302.

We have the lovebird texts, they openly, shamelessly, without care, talk about:
Editing 302's
Missing 302's
Editing other agents 302's

Then we find out they somehow got the names swapped onto the wrong 302's in one of the highest profile cases going.

[SteyrAUG]

I'd be all for putting a crack slinging hoe beater in Madoff's cell. Just sayin...

You can put crocks in his cell and my only comment would be that he should be wiped down with uncooked chickens first. Madoff may have been "white collar" but he destroyed as many lives as glock toting, crack slinging bangers.

Not everyone was super rich trying to get super richer, lots of regular "middle class" folks trusted others and put up their entire nest egg hoping to get college money for all of the kids or whatever the goal was. Some one should have told them that "investing is still gambling" but some jackass with a 10 bedroom house, 5 cars and a boat told them "with my guy...can't lose" and they trusted it to be true.

Seems once every century we get a Ponzi, sure you can blame the housing market collapse, but even if that didn't happen we'd have still taken an economic ride. It's astonishing how one person can actually directly influence the US economy, didn't we go off of the gold standard so we wouldn't be vulnerable to such things? Of course Greenspan used to change markets with a written paragraph.

[SomeOtherGuy]

So you know he is fully guilty of the specific crimes because you reviewed the Statues and the pertinent evidence personally or because you heard it in the same media that lies to you 24x7 on every other topic?

In his first trial, the only charge they convicted on was - wait for it - lying to the FBI.

If it was me I would pardon every single person that was convicted based on a 302.
We have the lovebird texts, they openly, shamelessly, without care, talk about:
Editing 302's
Missing 302's
Editing other agents 302's

I cannot agree more strongly. The whole "lying to agents" charge is a racket, it is used to frame and punish people who are not actually guilty of the 500,000 other federal felonies on the books. It is right out of the NKVD, Stalinism, and the scariest works of Orwell.

I think Blago is a sleaze, for the record. He's probably guilty of various other crimes. But the USA claims to have the "rule of law."