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    I had to click on this thread just to see how quickly the LPVO gays would chime in.
    "You people have too much time on your hands." - scottryan

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    Quote Originally Posted by WS6 View Post
    Razor has a wire reticle and is known to have issues related to this, among other things.

    Gen 3 razor is still an unknown, but does use an etched reticle.


    I'm calling it now, there will be a lot of Razor Gen 3's for sale after the initial release. It may be a decent optic, but I think their marketing machine doesn't get enough credit and the fair-weather LPVO users with limited experience are going to be disappointed that this won't be the end-all, be-all it's assumed to be.



    RE: irons as the "SHTF".

    While I've used every major scope MFG's customer service multiple times (S&B, NF, Kahles, Leupold, etc.), I've had more "deadlined" irons that broke from minor "knocked out of the gun rack" level stuff than anything else. Truth be told, I don't think I've ever had an optic go completely deadline...unusable at any level. Sure, some with dramatic capability reduction, but still viable for use.

    A front sight with a broken/missing front post; a folding front sight that flops up and down; a rear sight that's bent/canted off 10 degrees....all worthless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robbins290 View Post
    I run irons for "SHTF" , I do have a burris 3X scope that could be used. about a year of solid abuse in my patrol truck and it never lost zero, i would wait a couple more years before i recomend it. I would go irons my self. they are more rugged then optics.
    Maybe your irons are more rugged than crap optics like a Burris, but iron sights are less rugged than quality red dots or LPVOs.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Schootz View Post
    What about EMP attacks?
    Iron sights...
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    right, but with the title of thread being "SHTF Optics", i understood that BUIS are a given
    Last edited by feraldog; 02-20-20 at 11:37.

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    Keep it on track, keep it civil.
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    deleted, forgot to add the quotes.

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    Last edited by robbins290; 02-20-20 at 11:36. Reason: forgot to to add quotes

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    SHTF Optics

    Quote Originally Posted by feraldog View Post
    title of thread is "SHTF Optics", so use of BUIS aren't in question and are a given
    As in a mechanism to facilitate aiming at a target? Sure they are. If you’re going to the trouble of worrying about SHTF scenarios, nothing is more survivable than a FSB and carry handle rear. They can handle any engagements in the effective range of the rifle.
    Last edited by Inkslinger; 02-20-20 at 11:42.

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    The Russians make...or made at least, a 1x sight that had the option of either an illuminated red dot or an etched black dot that could be used without batteries. I think it was called the PK-AS. I’m sure the optic itself doesn’t compare favorably to western optics but the idea of a 1x reflex sight with a simple non-illuminated “black dot” option seems like an interesting idea.

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