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Thread: HK High Reliability Magazines. How Good Are They?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
    Alaskapopo,

    I think most of us have heard about your issues with PMAG's in Alaska. Is it really necessary to post it every time a thread is started about mags?
    I never heard it before. What was the problem?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rock View Post
    I never heard it before. What was the problem?
    In -40 below weather the feed lips cracked rendering the mags useless. The mags were cold soaked for an hour prior to be inserted in the gun. Feed lips cracked upon insertion into the weapon. I was not there for the test but I did see the mags and the person who showed them to me is credible. Again this is not going to be a problem for those of you sane enough not to live in a area where it gets -40.
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    Thanks, just wondering. You won't find my ass in that weather so I guess I don't have to worry about that type of failure.

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    We have used the HK mags; they can work well for the first 1000 rounds or so, sometimes longer.

    They can disintegrate when dropped on hard surfaces--use Magpuls on the bottom.

    The feed lips can bend when they are dropped.

    They can rust.

    They are heavy.

    They are expensive.

    Replacement parts are not readily available from HK.

    We switched to PMAGS and have not looked back...

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    I would happily take more HK mags if someone was handing them out- I have done it before.

    On my own $$ I would rather upgrade good aluminum GI mags with new springs, followers, and floor plates than throw down on HK mags. While I agree that the HK mags are better than old black-follower GI mags, I have not found them to out-perform upgraded standard mags.

    For new magazines I buy PMags and Lancer. PMags because they are just plain tough. Lancer because I am compelled to try them out and I my current sample of 2 is just too small to give them a fair shake.

    Alaskapopo- have you tried the Lancers in ridiculous cold yet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alaskapopo View Post
    With respect what is wrong with me sharing my experience. I am not trashing PMag just pointing out a problem that they have had in my climate. I whole heartedly recommend P mags. With respect it seems like you are trying to censor me. Why? I believe in stating it like it is for better or for worse. Overall PMags are the best mags on the market with the exception of use in Cold Climates.
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    Uh, -40 isn't "cold climate," it's "arctic climate." Not too many places in the USA get to -40 on a regular basis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alaskapopo View Post
    The mags were cold soaked for an hour prior to be inserted in the gun.
    I'm taking that to mean that you had them sitting in the cold to acclimatize them for an hour after removing them from, say, the warm interior of a truck?

    Just making sure, first time I've read that particular phrase.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alaskapopo View Post
    In -40 below weather the feed lips cracked rendering the mags useless. The mags were cold soaked for an hour prior to be inserted in the gun. Feed lips cracked upon insertion into the weapon. I was not there for the test but I did see the mags and the person who showed them to me is credible. Again this is not going to be a problem for those of you sane enough not to live in a area where it gets -40.
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    I have to wonder the practicality of forcing gear to run in conditions where the shooter obviously cannot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alaskapopo View Post
    In -40 below weather the feed lips cracked rendering the mags useless. The mags were cold soaked for an hour prior to be inserted in the gun. Feed lips cracked upon insertion into the weapon. I was not there for the test but I did see the mags and the person who showed them to me is credible. Again this is not going to be a problem for those of you sane enough not to live in a area where it gets -40.
    Pat
    Was it a single mag that failed or multiples that exhibited this failure mode?

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    I own a metric buttload of PMAGs (over 80), I own 16 Lancers. Neither PMAGs nor Lancers have given me troubles. I've owned 10 HK mags and had problems with them in fast cycling guns (my 3gun rifle and 10" supressed LMT)......in slower running guns the HK mags worked fine.
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