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I'm a bit concerned about this, there is a lot of video out there showing dogs throwing a false positive on people.
I'm not so sure about it.
Being a guy that doesn't do dope, it doesn't concern me so much that they would find some, I just don't want to get my truck tossed at the whim of someone who's power tripping.
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If the police want to find probable cause they can find probable cause. I haven't met a k9 officer yet who didn't have a sit signal with their dog. This is why you don't want to have a confrontation with police on the side of the road. You can win in court, but you can never win on the side of the road.
It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.
Chuck, we miss ya man.
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Generally, it shouldn't be at the officer's whim, unless the officer who has stopped you is a K-9 officer. Absent reasonable suspicion, the officer cannot detain you beyond the reasonable duration of the stop in order for a drug dog to arrive.Originally Posted by Averageman
If the officer has given you your warning, or citation, and doesn't 'close' the stop simply ask the officer 'am I free to leave?' or say something like 'I've got an appointment, if you are through with me, I need to get going.'
If the officer tells you that they aren't through ask what the basis is for your detention. Use the 'detention' word, such as 'what is the reason for my detention?' or 'why are you detaining me?'
If they ask you if they can search your vehicle, tell them NO. If they tell you we are going to search anyway, ask why.
Remember what they say, the words they use, it may be useful in ramming an unwarranted detention or search up their rear at the department level.
Be calm and be polite, your goal is to be released with no hassle so you can report the action to higher authority.
I tell you this because no LE professional should be okay with unreasonable detentions or searches.
Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand by the President... - Theodore Roosevelt, Lincoln and Free Speech, Metropolitan Magazine, Volume 47, Number 6, May 1918.
Every Communist must grasp the truth. Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun. Our principle is that the Party commands the gun, and the gun must never be allowed to command the Party Mao Zedong, 6 November, 1938 - speech to the Communist Patry of China's sixth Central Committee
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If they want to sniff, they have to hold you.
They have to have reason (probable cause) to hold you.
So just dont let them sniff. If they are not arresting you, drive, away. If they are, they need to articulate why.
If you piss clean, that would be good evidence that the whole situation is bullshit.
I’ve been pulled over a LOT, and never searched/sniffed. What you do when pulled over can usually make it a non-issue. Ive had cops rush to get me back on the road, and give me breaks... its all how you handle the situation.
Last edited by MegademiC; 03-01-20 at 17:01.
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Sorry, but if they are telling you they can signal an alert, it is your responsibility as a citizen to report that fact to the chief, sheriff, etc.
Why would anyone want to associate with corrupt officials or allow the behavior?
Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand by the President... - Theodore Roosevelt, Lincoln and Free Speech, Metropolitan Magazine, Volume 47, Number 6, May 1918.
Every Communist must grasp the truth. Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun. Our principle is that the Party commands the gun, and the gun must never be allowed to command the Party Mao Zedong, 6 November, 1938 - speech to the Communist Patry of China's sixth Central Committee
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Seeing as how I'm not a frug addict... meh...
- Either you're part of the problem or you're part of the solution or you're just part of the landscape - Sam (Robert DeNiro) in, "Ronin" -
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They, (the dogs) also miss. It depends on the handler and the dog. Good handlers and good dogs get good and honest results. I've seen both.
Dan
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You know, I initially read the headline as “frog sniffing” and I was a little confused...,
Psalm 34:19
To argue with a person who renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead. ~ Thomas Paine
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Frugs are bad, mmkay.
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Me too. I thought it was the dawn of a new totalitarian scheme instead of an existing one.
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