Tonight, Alabama Will Execute a Man Who Didn't Commit Murder

[Waylander]

But he wasn't involved in the actual crime that killed the police. He evaded from the police into a dwelling that just so happen to have separate, other criminal activity, and that activity was what got the police killed.

I'm pro death penalty, although I think it's completely broken in actual usage. That said, this was not a good execution at all imho. As a resident of Alabama, I do not agree at all with the killing of this man, and don't like our death penalty being used for cases like this.

Well, to be fair he was charged with being involved in a scheme to lure the police there and was convicted of it. We can all debate on whether the death penalty was warranted or not but apparently 2 out of 10 jurors disagreed.
If I’m reading right, SCOTUS may have also. It just so happens some of the members here disagree on whether that should hold weight or not. They already have their minds made up and that’s never going to change.

AL resident here as well.

[Todd.K]

But he wasn't involved in the actual crime that killed the police. He evaded from the police into a dwelling that just so happen to have separate, other criminal activity, and that activity was what got the police killed.

Apparently a jury of his peers saw things differently than you. Do you think it's possible they were given a more complete picture of what happened than the MSM is giving you?

[Renegade]

I thought it was common knowledge that if you are involved in a crime with other people and someone dies, everyone can go for murder.

He was in police custody when the crime was committed. I did not see if while in custody, he participated in the crime. Typical journalism to not give the most important facts.

[Renegade]

It looks like he lured them in to get executed by the other thug. The world is not worse off without him.

That is the prosecutions version. Seems like a ridiculously complicated plan to shoot cops. I will go with Occam's Razor instead.

[Renegade]

Apparently a jury of his peers saw things differently than you. Do you think it's possible they were given a more complete picture of what happened than the MSM is giving you?

Exactly.

The MSM is anti-DP, so they have an interest in ignoring the facts that do not fit their agenda.

[tn1911]

That is the prosecutions version. Seems like a ridiculously complicated plan to shoot cops. I will go with Occam's Razor instead.

That was my takeaway too, they desperately wanted to paint this guy as some Bond Villain, while the reality was the exact opposite.

Even the shooter said,

Spencer, who is also on death row, told The Appeal that Woods is "100 percent innocent. All he did that day was get beat up and he ran."

[ABNAK]

Well, to be fair he was charged with being involved in a scheme to lure the police there and was convicted of it. We can all debate on whether the death penalty was warranted or not but apparently 2 out of 10 jurors disagreed.
If I’m reading right, SCOTUS may have also. It just so happens some of the members here disagree on whether that should hold weight or not. They already have their minds made up and that’s never going to change.

AL resident here as well.

If that was indeed the case I stand corrected and it looks like he DID deserve it.....if that is true.

[SteyrAUG]

The death penalty is not even a deterrent due to the fact its not carried out swiftly.

That was never the point. While somewhat conflicted on this one, it's pretty much if somebody gets killed while robbing a bank, everyone involved in the bank robbery takes a murder rap. So not a good idea to roll with cop killers.

Our government isn’t sufficiently evolved enough to be trusted with such punishment over us...

So open the jails and let everyone out? I understand your basic objection that the system is full of holes, but not sure how we make it better, especially with lawyers being the ones to write laws and directly influence the system.

To me we need some kind of oversight, defenders need to be accountable if they knowingly and willfully get a guilty person acquitted and punished rather than rewarded and prosecutors need to be accountable if they knowingly and willfully get an innocent person convicted and should be punished rather than rewarded.

The whole promotion by stats creates an incentive to win regardless of guilt or innocence.

[ABNAK]

That was never the point. While somewhat conflicted on this one, it's pretty much if somebody gets killed while robbing a bank, everyone involved in the bank robbery takes a murder rap. So not a good idea to roll with cop killers.



So open the jails and let everyone out? I understand your basic objection that the system is full of holes, but not sure how we make it better, especially with lawyers being the ones to write laws and directly influence the system.

To me we need some kind of oversight, defenders need to be accountable if they knowingly and willfully get a guilty person acquitted and punished rather than rewarded and prosecutors need to be accountable if they knowingly and willfully get an innocent person convicted and should be punished rather than rewarded.

The whole promotion by stats creates an incentive to win regardless of guilt or innocence.

Steyr, if the jury says "not guilty", it's over. You know that. If what you say was the standard then ALL of OJ Simpson's defense team would be in jail!

[SteyrAUG]

Steyr, if the jury says "not guilty", it's over. You know that. If what you say was the standard then ALL of OJ Simpson's defense team would be in jail!

And I'd be ok with that.