RMR Dual Illuminated

**MrHandsome** · 03-16-20, 05:24

Anyone have experience with the rmr dual illuminated optics? Deciding if the 9moa dot or 12moa triangle for a shotgun is best. In theory the triangle would be good for up close do to its size and the tip could be used for longer distance with slugs.

**MountainRaven** · 03-16-20, 21:02

Is this going to be a serious use gun or something you're planning to use for strictly recreational purposes?

**ExplorinInTheWoods** · 03-16-20, 23:07

Triangle, go with green but people complained about problems shooting from dark into light.

**MrHandsome** · 03-17-20, 05:23

With all my setups I always make sure I can co witness with irons so if it does wash out I have that. My astigmatism makes low light with red dots very difficult as they spiderweb out pretty bad. With the dual green optics it doesn’t mess with my eyes for some reason.

**ggammell** · 03-17-20, 07:58

Originally Posted by MrHandsome

With all my setups I always make sure I can co witness with irons so if it does wash out I have that. My astigmatism makes low light with red dots very difficult as they spiderweb out pretty bad. With the dual green optics it doesn’t mess with my eyes for some reason.

Irons and optics are two different systems. Don’t co witness them.

**MrHandsome** · 03-17-20, 08:20

I respectfully disagree with that. “If it can go wrong it will”. Even if batteries die or tritium is washed out, which they will then you’d need a secondary sighting system. Same on rifles with BUIS. Back up sites are standard on all types of weapons, not having them is nothing short of foolish.

**ggammell** · 03-17-20, 08:30

Originally Posted by MrHandsome

I respectfully disagree with that. “If it can go wrong it will”. Even if batteries die or tritium is washed out, which they will then you’d need a secondary sighting system. Same on rifles with BUIS. Back up sites are standard on all types of weapons, not having them is nothing short of foolish.

I didn’t say don’t have them. I said don’t co witness them.

**1168** · 03-17-20, 08:47

I have a RM04, 7 moa amber dot. I like it, but it has a couple things you must consider.

1) the tritium is useless. When I bought it, it had none. Zero. A trip to Triji, and it came back so dim that it is only visible inside a dark closet.

2) washout. Walking into progressively dimmer rooms, the dot remains more than useable, to the point that I can no longer see the slide or the outline of the optic, or identify targets properly. But the dot is still there. Until I activate the pistol’s white light, then, POOF; its gone. If you work in a team environment, this will have no effect unless you’re the only one in a short room, because teammates weaponlights are enough to make the dot very bright. Or a handheld light vs weapon mounted will have the same effect. Not sure on a long gun; I suspect a very bright light will work.

3) Aiming from a dim area into a brighter area gets you a dim dot, or no dot at all.

But, it has upsides, such as no battery, no flickering, and its still surprisingly useable in dim light.

After reading Taliv’s post on the next page, I need to point out that I’ve never tried mine with NODs, and I have not yet purchased the proper height irons to back it up.