Martial Law....it is what it is.

[teufelhund1918]

2 weeks is better than nothing, but there should have been plans in place for that months ago and it shouldn't have been limited to China.

That there isn't discussion of planning for halting ALL inbound movement of people until the crisis is past is very telling.

There should have been contingency plans in place long ago. The CDC.. especially... and other gubbamint agencies have been sleeping on their blow holes for too long. If this was something worse than what it is now, like a mutated haunta virus, ebola, etc.. there would be dead people everywhere by now. There should be some heads rolling once this is over, but the gubbamint surely won't investigate itself. I'll limit my scrutiny to this.

[chuckman]

There should have been contingency plans in place long ago. The CDC.. especially... and other gubbamint agencies have been sleeping on their blow holes for too long. If this was something worse than what it is now, like a mutated haunta virus, ebola, etc.. there would be dead people everywhere by now. There should be some heads rolling once this is over, but the gubbamint surely won't investigate itself. I'll limit my scrutiny to this.

Totally agree, but there has not been, and likely won't be. Allow me to rephrase, your honor: just about everywhere has a plan framework, so when it really happens you just fill in the blanks and off you go. Some hospitals and jurisdictions are doing better with this than others. The CDC is a partner institution and not the parent institution, so anyone hanging on their coattails get what they deserve. But like any plan (and those of us who served in the military know this), it doesn't survive first contact. It's really showing gaps and holes, and the better organizations (and jurisdictions) are adapting quickly.

But yeah, I agree, communications and leadership have been horrible, and on the other wise of this, they all need to be blown up and started from scratch, with new leadership.

[TommyG]

U.S. judge orders immediate release of ICE detainees at risk for coronavirus exposure in Pa. county prisons

Surely they won't violate the shelter in place and social distancing diktats from our Governor.

Source: https://www.pennlive.com/news/2020/0...y-prisons.html

[FromMyColdDeadHand]

2 weeks is better than nothing, but there should have been plans in place for that months ago and it shouldn't have been limited to China.

That there isn't discussion of planning for halting ALL inbound movement of people until the crisis is past is very telling.

You might be able to do it after this pandemic for the next pandemic, but if you would shut everything down at the beginning of March before we had even any cases you would’ve had an armed revolt on your hands. Look at the number of people that still don’t want to do these measures now. Granted we went to Val wants been able to have them off by now, but democracies never do things early and effective.

[jsbhike]

You might be able to do it after this pandemic for the next pandemic, but if you would shut everything down at the beginning of March before we had even any cases you would’ve had an armed revolt on your hands. Look at the number of people that still don’t want to do these measures now. Granted we went to Val wants been able to have them off by now, but democracies never do things early and effective.

Not talking about shutting down anything here. Once an epidimic pops up elsewhere, shut down all movement of people in to the US till the epidemic is over.

[AKDoug]

There is some "Darwin'ism" at work here with virus tourists. Unfortunately, they tend to take others down with them with health issues like this. Ignorance is bliss with some college students on Spring Break because they "have strong immune systems!" Really? How about your parents or children that live in the same apartment complex as you? I'm assuming they ignore their grandparents so, at least they are safe from some of the idiots.

I see it locally here in East Texas myself. A friend's sister who is a teacher was going "stir crazy" in their house in Dallas so decided it was a good weekend to spend time in the country at her brother's cabin. Of course, the shelter in place orders didn't mean much with her 'need' to take care of a rural farm property.

Was her brother there? If not, what's the big deal?

[Averageman]

A group of over twenty students here at UT campus came back with Corona Virus from Cabo San Lucas.
If you want some Martial law, that's how you get some Martial law

[Grand58742]

A group of over twenty students here at UT campus came back with Corona Virus from Cabo San Lucas.
If you want some Martial law, that's how you get some Martial law

Nobody ever said Generation Z was smart.

[teufelhund1918]

A group of over twenty students here at UT campus came back with Corona Virus from Cabo San Lucas.
If you want some Martial law, that's how you get some Martial law

I'm sure this is happening all over the US on college campuses now after spring break. Ditto that on martial law. If people aren't smart enough to take care of their own and other's safety, then why would you not expect it. I really don't think we've seen the worse of this stuff yet. Funny to think that back in January they said not to worry as the chinese virus wasn't transmittable from human to human and now we are where we are.

[jsbhike]

Nobody ever said Generation Z was smart.

To be fair, they have been lied to every day of their lives that they need to fear everything that isn't part of a statist utopia.