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    "I came here, where freedom is being defended, to serve it, and to live or die for it

    I have lived most of my life in one of the seven counties. While we had a few teachers tell us the name Casimir Pulaski and fighting in our Revolution, they failed (and that can't be stressed enough) to tell us completely what he was.


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    If not for beer cans, I'd have never known the name.

    It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.

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    You might send him the picture, occasionally he does updates when he comes across new photos. That has to be at least as cool as having a street named after someone.

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    Thank you for making me less ignorant today. I'd never heard of him.
    "Literally EVERYTHING is in space, Morty." Grandpa Rick Sanchez

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    See this is what progressives never seem to understand. I am all for legal immigration, and I firmly believe we are a country of immigrates, but its people who understand and personify the values that are set forth in the constitution, and the firm belief that we are better with the fate of our own destinies, that make this country great. For them I will and want to work to have them here. Cheers to you @jsbhike, I am also subscribed to the History Guy, great stuff for the most part.
    Dr. Carter G. Woodson, “History shows that it does not matter who is in power or what revolutionary forces take over the government, those who have not learned to do for themselves and have to depend solely on others never obtain any more rights or privileges in the end than they had in the beginning.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hank6046 View Post
    See this is what progressives never seem to understand. I am all for legal immigration, and I firmly believe we are a country of immigrates, but its people who understand and personify the values that are set forth in the constitution, and the firm belief that we are better with the fate of our own destinies, that make this country great. For them I will and want to work to have them here. Cheers to you @jsbhike, I am also subscribed to the History Guy, great stuff for the most part.
    Yep. People try and make the "illegals" issue a "race" issue, as a former South Florida resident I can tell you that's bullshit. Want to see a real American? Talk to someone who "escaped" from Cuba and communism. They will work their ass off and often have an "earned" unfair advantage. They will work a shit job of 5 years then take every dime they saved and risk it on a small business and then put their entire life into making it work.

    I knew some guys who had small grocery stores, sandwich shops or cafes that truly felt they had been given EVERYTHING simply because they had the means to provide for themselves, their families and a handful of luxury items like a couple used cars. I used to not completely understand how they could take such pride in modest businesses (because I was a teenage kid who didn't get it) but the food was typically amazing and they were completely grateful that I dragged my stupid ass to their place for a medianoche and a cafe con leche and they remembered me when I would return again.

    Of course the Mariel boatlift brought thousands of undesirables when Castro emptied his jails, mental asylums and other institutions and forced them onto boats of people who thought they were only picking up their relatives.

    But we didn't harbor any negative views about the cubans we grew up with, they were just another kind of Floridian and honestly sometimes better than some who were born here. And there wouldn't be any resentment towards Mexicans if they 1. Came here legally and 2. Lived a better standard of existence than what they left behind. I understand poor is poor and it's hard to fix poor when you are poor, but you left your a reason. If you are still gonna piss on the side of your house, you could have stayed in Mexico and done that.

    And even Mexico isn't really the problem, come here legally, do things the way everyone else here has to do them...and if you open a restaurant and the food is good, I'll be a regular trying to help you succeed. I don't mean to over simplify what are sometimes complex situations, but sometimes it really is that easy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    and a cafe con leche
    Is that the steamed milk and coffee drink? They didn't have it on the menu, the waitress asked me if I wanted steamed milk in it when I ordered coffee on my first visit and after that never could remember the name, just the components.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    But we didn't harbor any negative views about the cubans we grew up with, they were just another kind of Floridian and honestly sometimes better than some who were born here. And there wouldn't be any resentment towards Mexicans if they 1. Came here legally and 2. Lived a better standard of existence than what they left behind. I understand poor is poor and it's hard to fix poor when you are poor, but you left your a reason. If you are still gonna piss on the side of your house, you could have stayed in Mexico and done that.
    I will add a 3rd, and this applies to legally born residents moving from state to state or big city to country also. Don't try to make your new state/city/county like your old one in terms of rules and laws. On average they left their old home directly, or indirectly, over those rules and laws and it is mind boggling they arrive at their new home and want to have it administered like their old. That was what turned me off of illegal immigration more than anything. I don't even use the terms assimilate/fit in because I figure part of living here is being able to swing my arm as much as I want up to the limit of someone else's nose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsbhike View Post
    Is that the steamed milk and coffee drink? They didn't have it on the menu, the waitress asked me if I wanted steamed milk in it when I ordered coffee on my first visit and after that never could remember the name, just the components.

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    I will add a 3rd, and this applies to legally born residents moving from state to state or big city to country also. Don't try to make your new state/city/county like your old one in terms of rules and laws. On average they left their old home directly, or indirectly, over those rules and laws and it is mind boggling they arrive at their new home and want to have it administered like their old. That was what turned me off of illegal immigration more than anything. I don't even use the terms assimilate/fit in because I figure part of living here is being able to swing my arm as much as I want up to the limit of someone else's nose.
    Totally agree. We have some Bernie supporters who moved into our nice little subdivision last year. They really like the neighborhood, and the cost of living, and how clean everything is compared to where they came from. I wonder how it ended up the way it did back in the city. How the cost of living was so high, and it was unreasonable to raise a kid and have a place for them to run around and be safe...
    Dr. Carter G. Woodson, “History shows that it does not matter who is in power or what revolutionary forces take over the government, those who have not learned to do for themselves and have to depend solely on others never obtain any more rights or privileges in the end than they had in the beginning.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsbhike View Post
    Is that the steamed milk and coffee drink? They didn't have it on the menu, the waitress asked me if I wanted steamed milk in it when I ordered coffee on my first visit and after that never could remember the name, just the components.

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    Yep, mostly milk...strong coffee and as much sugar as possible.

    Quote Originally Posted by jsbhike View Post

    I will add a 3rd, and this applies to legally born residents moving from state to state or big city to country also. Don't try to make your new state/city/county like your old one in terms of rules and laws. On average they left their old home directly, or indirectly, over those rules and laws and it is mind boggling they arrive at their new home and want to have it administered like their old. That was what turned me off of illegal immigration more than anything. I don't even use the terms assimilate/fit in because I figure part of living here is being able to swing my arm as much as I want up to the limit of someone else's nose.
    I always think it terms of "bring the good / leave the bad." If you left because people thinking like example A were making it a bad place to live, then don't bring example A thinking with you.

    Probably half of South Florida is from the northeast. I love the NY style pizza and the idea that places should still be open at 2am if you are hungry and things like that. Honking at you in traffic 2 seconds BEFORE the light turns green and the idea that you must fight about every social interaction...leave that mess in NY. And egg creams, when I finally discovered it wasn't actually an egg milk shake, I loved egg creams. There was a favorite newsstand I had as a kid where I bought most of my books and magazines and they had an egg cream counter, one day I said "screw it I'm gonna try one." If that old guy hadn't moved to Florida from New York I'd have never known.

    I try not to tell anyone how to live so long as they aren't hurting others, that said...people from Boston...learn to speak english already. I can understand spanish people with a very basic grasp of the language better than I can understand some Bostonian's who only speak english.
    It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.

    Chuck, we miss ya man.

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    Being in the vicinity of Chicago, I am probably more familiar with Casimir Pulaski than many others. I used to take it for granted that we got "Casimir Pulaski Day" off. He's pretty well known and revered in Poland, too.

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