And To Think...We Used To Make Fun Of Russia For Empty Shelves At The Store...

[jsbhike]

The toilet paper thing is a bit frustrating, but the formula hoarding is straight up messed up and kids will be malnourished because of it. ****ing people, man...

Seems to be a fair amount on eBay.

[THCDDM4]

Seems to be a fair amount on eBay.

Yes, but waiting a day or two for shipping to feed a child could be rough. Not everyone was prepared as they should have been and most folks with low incomes buy day to day or week to week at the local store

[jsbhike]

Yes, but waiting a day or two for shipping to feed a child could be rough. Not everyone was prepared as they should have been and most folks with low incomes buy day to day or week to week at the local store

Very true.

Not up to speed on formula pricing do I didn't know if it was getting scalped on there like sanitizing stuff or not.

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[HKGuns]

We are far too reliant on China. Perhaps this is just the wake up call people needed.

But I am betting it isn’t.

[jsbhike]

We are far too reliant on China. Perhaps this is just the wake up call people needed.

But I am betting it isn’t.

I think a lot of people already knew that. Some loathed it, some loved it, and some didn't care with each subdivision having different reasons why. Might move quite a few from the not caring group to the loathe, but the ones who love it are still running the show.

[sundance435]

Supply chains ain't what they used to be. Not only are we relying on other countries more, but our own domestic supply chains are really not designed to account for situations like this. The whole system is very lean - not a lot of slack or stock waiting to be used, which is why logistics is a booming industry - great and efficient on an average day, but not for a situation like this. As gets alluded to in times like these, 90% of this country is only 2 really bad weeks away from starving when the ships, trains and semis, stop or have nothing to deliver. Even ramping up production of something like toilet paper, you'd probably only start to see it reflected in the supply chain several weeks after they increase.

[SteyrAUG]

So of course the day AFTER I post this stuff I score a 30 roll megapack of Charmin Ultra. I drove around with it in the front seat like I had a Italian supermodel in my car.

[HKGuns]

So of course the day AFTER I post this stuff I score a 30 roll megapack of Charmin Ultra. I drove around with it in the front seat like I had a Italian supermodel in my car.

Ha! Now that is funny. You just might have been in a Bond film.

[pinzgauer]

Been some interesting articles on TP supply chains.

Short version:
- the supply chains for retail toilet paper and that of commercial toilet paper are completely separate once past manufacturer. Really two completely different products as well. Mfgs are now having to convert more production for retail product.

- the enforced stay-at-home has caused people to utilize 40% more toilet paper from retail sources as quite simply they are not pooping at work as much.

So while there is some hoarding, that would have been a short-term spike. Now it's just significantly increased demand in the retail channel and virtually no demands and the commercial channel. Which is not packaged for retail sales so you're out of luck.

The same thing has happened to groceries, people are eating at home that used to eat out almost double as often. Most children ate lunch at school, a large percentage ate breakfast at school. (Or daycare)

So again while there might be some short-term hoarding of groceries, or people buying in advanced more than they normally would, there is also significantly increase legitimate demand.

And again, food in commercial supply chains is getting the unsold, to the point that some are giving it away rather than letting it spoil. And gain, not packaged for retail, thus illegal to sell

Meanwhile there is a guy on this forum who bought 90000 rounds of 5.56 with the intention of repackaging and selling when the price roughly doubled.

[Belmont31R]

My Econ professor was a lady who grew up in Soviet Russia. She told us about getting an orange for Christmas and how excited each kid was to get an orange. For the most part they scrounged around for food, and things like fresh fruits and vegetables were very scarce.

I wouldn't put this situation anything close to the average Soviet food experience. We went maybe a week where TP was cleaned out. Cleaning supplies and alcohol get wiped out quick. For the most part you can still buy everything but have to hunt a little more and pay higher prices if you really need something.

People are correct that theres a shakeup in the distribution of goods because of all the people working from home or laid off, and that supply chains are built to be lean where theres not a lot of product just sitting around to fill gaps. Theres no giant warehouses full of goods just sitting there in storage ready to fill sudden surges in demand. That would cost a lot of money when common grocery store items are usually pretty low margin to begin with. They make money off volume so shit sitting in storage would quickly eat up margins or mean we pay quite a bit more for no reason other than stuff sitting around before we purchase those items.

This scenario is actually why quite a few firearm manufacturers and distributers have gone out of business. During panics people ramped up production and distribution capability just to see demand fall through the floor then they're stuck with an operation they can no longer afford. Better to work within your existing capability than trying to chase some quick sales that require investment and costs you may not be able to sustain in the future.