After the storm, then what?

[hotrodder636]

I too am thinking that many companies will realize they can operate with less or minimize hours by incorporating telework.

[Straight Shooter]

I keep thinking about the years following 9/11.
How, in the quest to do SOMETHING, a lot of shit was done & done WRONG.
And it depends on what party is in power at the time, as to the severity of how "wrong" the crap is.
We are in for the Covid19 version of 9/11. A lot will come out of this in the following months & years.
Dems will want crap- Repubs too. Then, so will the rest of the world.
We wont have Trump forever. I THANK GOD he is in office now, not that he is "perfect"..but yall seriously consider what would be happening now if Killary were in, or if a demonrat gets elected in the fall. Talk about a worsening situation. Gas on a fire.
And, the longer this sticks around, the more wrong stuff they will want to do. And thats IF nothing else hits.
We were united for about 4-5 months after 9/11. We aint ever been that way since, and politically speaking wont ever be again.
We coulda gone thru this and come out fine if the media & demonrat party's main concern was America, instead of still trying to get Trump out of office. Thats STILL today their main focus. Above all else. I not only dont see a good ending- I see really a fundamental change in our way of life coming & soon.

[Dirk Williams]

A fiat nation can not continue to wipe its citizens life savings out and expect any level of support. My family is fine, my funding source are all GOVT, my friends, many here are private industry, are getting hammered hard, day to day, some will never really recover. We are helping several friends families members with needed supplies, diapers, are huge, our children and relatives, and our friends, children are hurting. We're doing what we can, but it's a dent in the real needs.

This politics thing is putting our young families futures, behind the debt, bubble.

This national shutdown is pure power politics, lose of liberties has already occurred, will continue to occur. Being preppers for the better part of thirty years, we have shared masks, rubber gloves, and offered to prepare at least one hot meal a day for our neighbors. Not needed yet, it is We The People who need to take care of us, anybody counting on mother govt, is asking for trouble.

Things have already changed, by design. Trump has held the NWO, and like at bay with his America First policies. So,e think it is him who is directly responsible for this financial collapse, I don't see it that way.

The left have been showing their hand this entire past three years, they will do ANYTHING, to recover the presidency, including tank this great nation.

If your not taking the time to discover who is really behind this, perhaps it's time. Their's a reckoning coming in our future. It won't be pretty.


DW

[ABNAK]

I think this pandemic has shown the limits of government power, at least here in the U.S. They can't nationally enforce a quarantine. Where I see a positive is it also shows any future Federal-level banning of firearms will not go how they think it will. Reigning in Americans is like herding cats. This pandemic shows that quite well. We don't queue up and obediently toe the line, we're not Europeans or Chinese or South Koreans. We have a propensity to flip the bird at authority; it's ingrained in us as a country. That won't be easily taken away.

[tanktop]

What I’m most worried about is if a single court upholds a fine or jail sentence because a governor says so. That will establish precedent and that’s the beginning of the end in my mind or at least the final straw. Red Flag laws have you worried, you ain’t seen nothing yet!


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[jsbhike]

I would not be surprised to see many older corporations move to a flexible work place/tele work model. Why pay for a bunch of square footage, office furniture, parking, and electricity when you don't have to. Most of my folks could work from home 2-3 days a week with zero impact, dedicated workspaces would not be required for those days, and we could easily stagger our program requirements to cut our office space needs in half.

Working from home would negate a lot of micro managing many businesses crave so I wouldn't count on that being universal.

[jethroUSMC]

I would not be surprised to see many older corporations move to a flexible work place/tele work model. Why pay for a bunch of square footage, office furniture, parking, and electricity when you don't have to. Most of my folks could work from home 2-3 days a week with zero impact, dedicated workspaces would not be required for those days, and we could easily stagger our program requirements to cut our office space needs in half.

On a personal level, I will maintain a stock of GOOD masks, disposable gloves, clorox wipes, and hand sanitizer. There will be another pandemic in my life (I'm 51) and it will probably be worse. We will continue to stock non-perishable food and staying home for weeks at a time has helped us fine-tune what that food should be.

Andy

Be careful what you wish for. Working in IT for over the last 2 decades, eventually the next cost cutting decision companies follow is to target at home work to offshore at an even larger savings on salaries and reduced non-captial expenses for benefits. Because if your job can be done from anywhere, why not India? Rinse...lather...repeat.

[mrbieler]

What I’m most worried about is if a single court upholds a fine or jail sentence because a governor says so. That will establish precedent and that’s the beginning of the end in my mind or at least the final straw. Red Flag laws have you worried, you ain’t seen nothing yet!


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We had a paddle boarder arrested earlier this week. Life guards spotted him and he refused their orders to return to the beach. They called the sheriff who called a patrol boat. He was arrested on suspicion of disobeying a lifeguard and violating Gov. Gavin Newsom’s stay-at-home order, a misdemeanor. He was booked and released. Possible $1000 fine or 6 months in jail.

While beaches are closed, the current stay at home order does allow you to go outside for exercise provided you maintain social distancing. Kinda hard to suggest he wasn't maintaining 6' paddle boarding by himself in the ocean...

Curious what the courts will say.

A week earlier, a surfer was fined $1000 for entering the water during the stay at home order. Don't know if he's fight it or what will happen in that case.

In both cases, the charges are misdemeanors.

[AndyLate]

Be careful what you wish for. Working in IT for over the last 2 decades, eventually the next cost cutting decision companies follow is to target at home work to offshore at an even larger savings on salaries and reduced non-captial expenses for benefits. Because if your job can be done from anywhere, why not India? Rinse...lather...repeat.

I work for a space/defense contractor and produce restricted distribution (i.e. no Foreign Nationals) products.

We are more threatened by customer trends than our corporation's cost saving initiatives.

Andy

[Mr. Goodtimes]

Sure lets reelect the guy and his cronies that cost us God knows how many trillions by shutting down the country for boomer flu and then putting us another two trillion in debt with the stroke of a pen so low to middle income Americans can get a measly $1200 consolation prize for for the likely tens of thousands, if not more dollars they lost. If a democrat did this people would be losing their minds at what a catastrophic waste of money this is for no gain; orange man does it though and its all good because muh republican, muh America, muh not hitlery kitten. Traditionally the only thing republicans have even sort of not sucked at is curbing the inevitable creep towards full blown socialism; and lately they've ben failing at that too. Republicans care about preserving the constitution and conservative culture the same way the democrats care about the blacks and the gays. Each side just caters towards a different group of idiots looking for someone to follow because neither group wants to hear or admit that they've been lied to their whole lives by their elected officials.