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    I have the Credo 1-6 SFP Red segmented circle. It is definitely daylight bright on setting 10. It won’t blow you away like an Aimpoint, but really no LPVO is that bright. The reticle is well designed, and you really don’t need illumination during the day. You can bracket close targets with the segmented circle, but still have the fine center dot and crosshair for small targets/further shots. I can’t comment on the FFP version- but I haven’t used a FFP LPVO that wasn’t dependent on illumination to be able to use it on 1x. With such short battery life on these types of scopes- I don’t like being dependent on illumination to use it. I think anything 6x and below should be a SFP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate56 View Post
    I have the Credo 1-6 SFP Red segmented circle. It is definitely daylight bright on setting 10. It won’t blow you away like an Aimpoint, but really no LPVO is that bright.
    You obviously have never seen a Razor 1-6 or an NX8 1-8 then.

    Because they are BRIGHT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RHINOWSO View Post
    You obviously have never seen a Razor 1-6 or an NX8 1-8 then.

    Because they are BRIGHT.
    Yeah I’ve seen both. Sorry no one will give you what you want, or make up your mind for you. You could spend your own money like I did and find out for yourself. Like I said, I like mine and will continue to use it. There are thousands of opinions on optics, so what one person likes, someone else doesn’t. I don’t tend to base my decisions on what somebody says on the internet.
    Last edited by msstate56; 04-28-20 at 17:04.

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    Presscheck consulting has some videos on YouTube for LVPO v dot+ magnifier. They are also linked in the stickied “the one gun solution” thread.

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    @msstate56

    Do you own or have recently used a P4Xi or Vortex Razor/PST 1-6?

    If so could you qualify in terms of 10/10, 9/10, etc the peak brightness of the Credo?

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    I currently can’t do a direct comparison between those. As has been mentioned- the Credo will not be as bright as the Razor. It’s still plenty visible on setting 10 in Mississippi sunlight. One thing that keeps getting glossed over is reticle design. With the Razor and Steiner- you have a super bright center dot, but thin crosshairs outside of that. If the illumination goes down, you’re left with a thin, less than desirable crosshair. However, on the segmented circle of the Credo- you have a big bold segmented circle that is easy to find, even without illumination. I’ve been taking the Credo on my walks through the woods lately and I don’t need the illumination turned on to easily acquire the reticle. If the segmented circle went “Aimpoint bright” as some people demand, it would wash out the center of the reticle and whatever target you’re looking at. I find I prefer the segmented circle to bracket close targets- like you would with an EOTech reticle- then use the fine center for more precise aiming when needed. So for the BDC works out to 300 (when using 55 gr Fed on a 16”).
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    Nevermind. I can’t get pictures to work right.
    Last edited by msstate56; 05-05-20 at 13:21.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate56 View Post
    Nevermind. I can’t get pictures to work right.
    That looks great. Basically a 1-6 version of the Accupower 1-4. I had one that I used for a couple seasons of 3gun and loved it. Very fast, huge eye box. I just went back to a TA11 ACOG from an NX8, but I considered the 1-6 Credo and think it might be my second pick to the ACOG.
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    I like it more and more every time I take it out. I used it yesterday to shoot the heads off of two small cottonmouths near my cabin. You’re looking at a target the size of a dime ��

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    Quote Originally Posted by ASH556 View Post
    That looks great. Basically a 1-6 version of the Accupower 1-4. I had one that I used for a couple seasons of 3gun and loved it. Very fast, huge eye box. I just went back to a TA11 ACOG from an NX8, but I considered the 1-6 Credo and think it might be my second pick to the ACOG.
    Interesting info here. Because I am looking at the Credo 1-6 as a possible replacement for the ACOG 3.5-35 LCD. I keep thinking the ACOG is perfect for my needs which is DMR function out to maybe 600 yds max if needed. The ACOG can do that and the battery life is way better than the Credo. I am always amazed at the clarity and resolution of the ACOG. I would like to know if there is any advantage to the Credo as far as seeing long distance targets.
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