PSA BCG, quality or nah?

[Stopsign32v]

PSA? At comparable price, get a Toolcraft C158 from Arm or Ally.

Toolcraft is a sister company of PSA according to them. So you are getting the same thing with PSA vs Toolcraft.

[DG23]

He may have been speculating as to how PSA gets stuff done, but there is no speculation as to the results. Not everything PSA releases is crap, but there is no doubt that they produce an inordinate amount of it. Could you buy PSA and have no problems for 10k rounds? Absolutely. But your chances of buying poorly specced and poorly assembled parts and receivers are much higher than with almost any other manufacturer except maybe Century Arms.

You get what you pay for, don't kid yourself.

Even within PSA and the stuff they sell - They have different lines of quality / price.

Custom, Premium, Classic, Freedom... Prices and quality going from left to right there...

[NWcityguy2]

Yes, he was indeed speculating regarding their QC procedures, but as I wrote, there is no speculation as to their actual quality.

I am 100% sure people speculate as to PSA's actual quality. I have seen it with my own eyes on this very forum.

[Disciple]

Toolcraft is a sister company of PSA according to them.

Them being Toolcraft, or PSA?

[Diamondback]

Them being Toolcraft, or PSA?

JJE has been buying gun companies like kids chasing baseball cards... Toolcraft has a CAGE code for supplying complete spare BCG's to DOD, and AoA set the spec for the ones they order at "change to nitride coating otherwise make 'em to the same spec as the Army's."

JJE's H&R arm just acquired NoDak Spud... this worries me, they look to be becoming the new Cerberus Group. What do we know about them and their major owners?

[Stopsign32v]

JJE has been buying gun companies like kids chasing baseball cards... Toolcraft has a CAGE code for supplying complete spare BCG's to DOD, and AoA set the spec for the ones they order at "change to nitride coating otherwise make 'em to the same spec as the Army's."

JJE's H&R arm just acquired NoDak Spud... this worries me, they look to be becoming the new Cerberus Group. What do we know about them and their major owners?

I don't think JJE owns Toolcraft (yet) but they are a sister company with PSA straight out of a manager at PSA's mouth. I would assume that all PSA bolts were Toolcraft but cannot confirm this. Toolcraft does make bolts for other OEMs so it only makes sense that PSA has them make theirs too unless PSA has found a cheaper equally quality option.

I do believe either way that PSA bolts are G2G.

[Diamondback]

"Sister company" usually means wholly owned by same parent. For example, the Peoria & Eastern and Boston & Albany RR's along with Despatch Shops carbuilder and Flexi-Van trailer/container transport at 90+% ownership under the New York Central umbrella would be "sisters" but the 60% NYC/40% Milwaukee Road-split Indiana Harbor Belt and the Pittsburgh & Lake Erie RR were not despite being other majority-owned subsidiaries.

[RUTGERS95]

I don't think JJE owns Toolcraft (yet) but they are a sister company with PSA straight out of a manager at PSA's mouth. I would assume that all PSA bolts were Toolcraft but cannot confirm this. Toolcraft does make bolts for other OEMs so it only makes sense that PSA has them make theirs too unless PSA has found a cheaper equally quality option.

I do believe either way that PSA bolts are G2G.

toolcraft does not make bolts, only carriers

[Hank6046]

I'm unable to find anywhere BCM says they are ISO 9000 certified. Could you please post your source?

Look up Waukesha Machine and Tool and/or W/S Machine and tool, their the sister company that does the finalizing of BCM parts. W/S does make all ADMs mounts and also works with Mid-West in some capacity as well

[Hank6046]

"Sister company" usually means wholly owned by same parent. For example, the Peoria & Eastern and Boston & Albany RR's along with Despatch Shops carbuilder and Flexi-Van trailer/container transport at 90+% ownership under the New York Central umbrella would be "sisters" but the 60% NYC/40% Milwaukee Road-split Indiana Harbor Belt and the Pittsburgh & Lake Erie RR were not despite being other majority-owned subsidiaries.

You usually have sister companies and affiliates, a sister company or subsidiary, are companies owned or majority controlled by the same company but diversify in product roles. If PSA owns Toolcraft then PSA has a clear supply of bolts, while any further more manufactured can be sold to other companies and both PSA and Toolcraft profit.