When God Abandons a Nation - WARNING CHRISTIAN MESSAGE BELOW!

[BuzzinSATX]

Elephant,

Thank you for your excellent posts on this thread. You express the way I’ve come to believe in the Lord and His Son perfectly.

[AndyLate]

Elephant,

Thank you for your excellent posts on this thread. You express the way I’ve come to believe in the Lord and His Son perfectly.

I am not deeply religious, but I agree Elephant's posts are excellent.

For what it is worth, I disagree with the concept God can abandon a nation. You reap what you sow and it is our nation that has abandoned God.

Andy

[1911-A1]

This is what happens when irrelevant old men try and shoehorn an irrelevant belief system into incredibly complex times and shake their fists in frustration when it not only doesn't fit, but society increasingly makes it obvious that their opinion isn't welcome or wanted.

[Life's a Hillary]

So God is punishing the immoral United States but just sits idly by when North Korea is running literal concentration camps and executing members of its own populace in absolutely horrific ways and sits idly by when there are actual slave trades going on in Africa? But letting gay people get married is worthy of the wrath of God? The twisted logic people have to work themselves into is astounding.

Instead of sending cryptic messages for some old man to interpret for us via a virus that is completely natural why doesn’t he just come on down to earth and tell us? I guess that would be too easy.

[OH58D]

I have my own beliefs and understanding as to what is a Supreme Being in the universe. Every religion has pre-packaged God and tried selling it to the masses - each one says:
"We have the True God over here...come join us".

Even Climate Change has become a religion. Just like the Roman Catholic Church was selling indulgences in 1550 to buy your dead relative out of Hell, the High Priests of Climate Change sell carbon credits or offsets to mitigate your evil carbon footprint - salvation with handing over cash.

I have my doubts about TV Preachers. When I was a student at the University of Arizona, and Army Reservist, I made extra income with a paid internship at a local NBC affiliate. I worked with a guy who had been a cameraman previously for a nationwide religious program. He gave me a line which I remember to this day:

"There's a lot of money to be made in non-profit Christian broadcasting"

[TexHill]

fairy tales don’t effect real life

Romans 1:19-20 19)because that which is known about God is evident within them; for God made it evident to them. 20)For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse." Romans 1:20

Volcanoes and airplanes flying into buildings as God's wrath- and I'm out.

So do you expect God's wrath to be unicorns and puppy dogs?

So just curious, what did the European jews do wrong in the 1930s and 1940s where apparently god abandoned them wholesale. Men, women, children...good people, bad people, whatever...babies too.
Cause they seemed like a pretty devout group to me.

“Sometimes God allows what He hates in order to accomplish what He loves." As tragic and evil as the Holocaust was, how else was God going to unite and motivate the Jews to reclaim the Promised Land?

[1911-A1]

The times we live in now are the best humans have ever seen. We have the best of everything, and the least war, suffering and death. Those things still exist, of course, but nowhere near the concentration they have in the past. We have the best education, the best communication, the best medicine. Food is the most plentiful and cheapest to produce it's ever been. We live the longest and have the most luxury of any time in earth's history. We hate less, we're less afraid of people who don't look like us, and we accept that people can be different without being a threat.

Yet these foolish old men stand behind pulpits and glower down and scream that the end is near and that god has abandoned us because of the sin they see everywhere when what they really mean is, the world has moved on and left them behind.

They scream about how we need to fear again, how we need to retreat from the progress we've made and collapse back into superstition, and that our accomplishments aren't the prizes we think, just because they make us less reliant on old foolish stories. In reality society is improving. Our lives grow better and longer. The only difference is, and what drives these irrelevant old codgers crazy is that every day we have less and less need of a god. We simply understand too much about ourselves and the world to need to huddle around a fire being told scary stories about what's beyond its glow.

[Circle_10]

Romans 1:19-20 19)because that which is known about God is evident within them; for God made it evident to them. 20)For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse." Romans 1:20



So do you expect God's wrath to be unicorns and puppy dogs?



“Sometimes God allows what He hates in order to accomplish what He loves." As tragic and evil as the Holocaust was, how else was God going to unite and motivate the Jews to reclaim the Promised Land?

So is God a sociopathic control freak or does He just have a really incompetent PR department?

That’s like saying “That teenage runaway being gang raped behind an Arby’s was tragic, but hey, it motivated her to go back home, so all that non-consensual sodomy served the greater good.”

[26 Inf]

Elephant and BoringGuy45: Thank you!

[HKGuns]

God has nothing to do with any of this nonsense.........Feel free to believe what you want. I went no.