Covid 19 Sci/med discussions only

[dwhitehorne]

Not sure taken as general preventive is a smart idea, but have not looked at that one in depth. zinc, C, D, NAC, and others would make more sense I suspect.

Not a doctor here but I was given Malaria pills for 6 months in Okinawa and another 5 months while deployed in Central/South America as a preventative. What would be the difference as a preventative for a different illness?

Also I read a comment online yesterday that India has 1.3 billion people and only 3300 deaths while they are strongly pushing hydroxychloroquine. Four times the population as the USA and fraction of the death rate. Are those numbers real? David

[Caduceus]

The difference is, malaria prophylaxis is known to work.

And I seriously doubt India's numbers.

[ABNAK]

The difference is, malaria prophylaxis is known to work.

And I seriously doubt India's numbers.

We really don't know yet what works and what doesn't with COVID-19 though. I'd be willing to take a 60+ year old proven drug (not just used for malaria) given prophylactically and see what happens than be given it as a last-ditch effort when I'm damn near death and then hear someone say "See, it didn't work!".

Agree about India's numbers though.

[WillBrink]

Not a doctor here but I was given Malaria pills for 6 months in Okinawa and another 5 months while deployed in Central/South America as a preventative. What would be the difference as a preventative for a different illness?

Also I read a comment online yesterday that India has 1.3 billion people and only 3300 deaths while they are strongly pushing hydroxychloroquine. Four times the population as the USA and fraction of the death rate. Are those numbers real? David

I don't know the functional differences between them well enough to comment, but I do like ABNAK's take on it. Hard to fault his logic on that one.

[P2Vaircrewman]

Is Covid 19 worse than the Hong Kong flu pandemic of 1968. It would seem not at this point. Considering the world population in 1968 was 3.5 billion and now it is 7.7 billion with an unhealthier population the death rate for Covid 19 appears much lower. I was 24 in 68 and barely recall it. The big news stories were the Vietnam war, Woodstock and the 68 democratic convention riots in Chicago. I remember all of that vividly. I don't remember people wearing masks, social distancing or shutting down the economy. Were it not for today 24-7 /365 news and politics Covid might have been a page 5 article in the local paper. Seems everyone has lost the ability to reason and common sense over this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Kong_flu

[Vic79]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.huffi...6715509a8fed7/

“ A government coronavirus antibody test study has revealed 17% of people in London and 5% of people outside the capital have already had the illness”

So around 1,526,940 in London alone. Then around 2,850,000 in the rest of the UK. I know this goes against the chicken little crap that gets posted here, but if we assume this study is even ballpark accurate that would bring the Fatality rate to around 0.00822492426. LOL!
I hope everyone gets tested so we can see the true numbers and then we will see just how stupid this all went.
Chicken little on!

[AndyLate]

Oops, answered my own question - the CDC estimates there were ~24K more deaths than seasonal norms, suspected to be caused by C19.

[WillBrink]

Letter sent and signed by 600 or so docs to POTUS on the secondary effects of the lockdown referring it as being a “mass casualty incident” with “exponentially growing negative health consequences” to millions of non COVID patients.

“The downstream health effects...are being massively under-estimated and under-reported. This is an order of magnitude error," according to the letter initiated by Simone Gold, M.D., an emergency medicine specialist in Los Angeles.

“Suicide hotline phone calls have increased 600%,” the letter said. Other silent casualties: “150,000 Americans per month who would have had new cancer detected through routine screening.”

Cont:

https://www.scribd.com/document/4623...-Letter-Signed

[WillBrink]

Study examining the infectivity (or lack there of...) from asymptomatic SARS-CoV-2 carriers. Study concludes:

"In summary, all the 455 contacts were excluded from SARS-CoV-2 infection and we conclude that the infectivity of some asymptomatic SARS-CoV-2 carriers might be weak."

Full paper:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7219423/

[jbjh]

Study examining the infectivity (or lack there of...) from asymptomatic SARS-CoV-2 carriers. Study concludes:

"In summary, all the 455 contacts were excluded from SARS-CoV-2 infection and we conclude that the infectivity of some asymptomatic SARS-CoV-2 carriers might be weak."

Full paper:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7219423/

The issue is this was a sample of 1 asymptomatic carrier -

“The limitation of our study is that there is only one case and lack of detailed information on family members quarantined locally.”

Maybe I missed something in their ESL write-up, but I don’t understand why they classify her as asymptomatic when she had several symptoms presenting when she was admitted to the hospital.


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